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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lame LN excuses
« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2022, 05:25:58 AM »
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Total dishonesty by Mytton, as per usual. We know from the evidence that Oswald only had two jackets. When Frazier was shown CE 163 he said;

Mr. BALL - I have here Commission's 163, a gray blue jacket. Do you recognize this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald wear this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't believe I have.

That only leaves CE 162, which is the grey jacket. So, regardless of the less than perfect description by Frazier the grey jacket must be the one Oswald was wearing to Irving on Thursday evening and Marina confirmed it;

Mr. RANKIN. Do you remember anything else he was wearing at that time?
Mrs. OSWALD. It seems he had that jacket, also.
Mr. RANKIN. Exhibit 162?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

And Earlene Roberts said she was paying more attention to the TV   :D

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Total dishonesty by Mytton, as per usual.

Far out, all I did was quote what Frazier said and you go totally ballistic.

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We know from the evidence that Oswald only had two jackets.

Do you mean evidence from Marina?

I don't have to call Marina a liar. She confirmed herself that she had lied to investigators. That should have been a red flag, but somehow it wasn't. They probably needed her testimony too desperately to care.

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That only leaves CE 162, which is the grey jacket.

No, Frazier said he saw Oswald wear a different grey jacket on more than one occasion and who knows how many jackets Oswald had acquired since moving away from Marina? There's a BIG difference between a woolen jacket and CE162.
Btw Marina does say it "seems" to be the same jacket, as obviously she had no special reason to pay attention whereas when Oswald killed Tippit the eyewitnesses had a very important reason to pay attention and the eyewitnesses at or close to the crime scene positively identified Oswald wearing a jacket while holding a revolver.

Mr. FRAZIER - To be frank with you, I didn't notice that much about the jacket, but I had seen him wear that gray woolen jacket before.

Mrs. OSWALD. It seems he had that jacket, also.

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And Earlene Roberts said she was paying more attention to the TV

That's a great analogy, Frazier remembered Oswald putting the Bag on the back seat of the car and btw Oswald told Fritz that he kept it on his lap. Frazier also remembered Oswald having the bag in his cupped hand and told the London Trial that the bag could have been out in front. Jerry Organ made a great graphic showing how Oswald possibly held the rifle.
So, like Frazier, Roberts didn't pay attention to minor details but seeing Oswald in different clothing and zipping up the jacket was an imprintable memory.

Besides Oswald's jacket was filmed at the Parking lot near to where Tippit was killed and shown on WFAATV later that day. Case Closed.



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Re: Lame LN excuses
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2022, 06:06:44 AM »
It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to sort out what happened.

No, it takes somebody who likes to make up stories and pretend that they are facts.

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Re: Lame LN excuses
« Reply #114 on: April 12, 2022, 06:08:02 AM »
Huh? Marina is looking right at the piece of clothing and says it's Oswald's,

She thought they were showing her an old shirt.  Or maybe they were.

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Re: Lame LN excuses
« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2022, 06:12:28 AM »
That's a great analogy, Frazier remembered Oswald putting the Bag on the back seat of the car and btw Oswald told Fritz that he kept it on his lap. Frazier also remembered Oswald having the bag in his cupped hand and told the London Trial that the bag could have been out in front. Jerry Organ made a great graphic showing how Oswald possibly held the rifle.

"could have been"
"possibly held"

LOL.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lame LN excuses
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2022, 07:31:38 AM »
She thought they were showing her an old shirt.  Or maybe they were.

Maybe her Engrish not so good?

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Or maybe they were.

Oh yeah, "they" had power to show her something else but forgot to edit her testimony? Silly Conspirators!

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2022, 07:45:33 AM »
First he had to dump the two jackets he was wearing in Whaley's cab prior to entering the rooming house.

ROFL

Nonsense.

Whaley described the shirt that his passenger was wearing, in detail, to the FBI long before he testified to the Warren Commission.

Learn the evidence.

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Re: Lame LN excuses
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2022, 07:50:13 AM »
Total dishonesty by Mytton, as per usual. We know from the evidence that Oswald only had two jackets. When Frazier was shown CE 163 he said;

Mr. BALL - I have here Commission's 163, a gray blue jacket. Do you recognize this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald wear this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't believe I have.

That only leaves CE 162, which is the grey jacket.

Wow.

Talk about a kook spin.

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Re: Lame LN excuses
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2022, 07:50:13 AM »