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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2018, 04:23:41 PM »
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Thanks for pointing that out. He would have to get his arms that far back to gather the sides of the light-weight jacket that had billowed out behind him.

        Just how many times have you Ever reached Back/Down onto your butt cheeks to straighten out a billowed jacket you were wearing? I mean, you want us to believe this guy is in Public grabbing at his cheeks in order to straighten his jacket? The primary reason a man would have his hands in this area/position is to handle something tucked between his back and waist, or something tucked into his back pocket(s).

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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2018, 04:23:41 PM »


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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2018, 05:26:48 PM »
I don't believe he's touching his butt cheeks. I think he just swung back his arms in a wide swoop to gather the sides of the jackets. Would be pretty hard to blindly reach back with both hands and automatically lay the hands on the jacket corners where the zipper begins. First thing to do would be to pin the billowing jacket sides between his torso and arms. Then the hands can get to the corners so as to zip it.

Sorry. You're the only one I see relishing a fantasy of one grabbing their butt cheeks.

          Draw on your own experience. If the wind causes your jacket to billow, (not agreeing this is what actually happened to The Cuban/DCM), you grab the left and right sides of the jacket, pull it forward, and then zip it up. Same goes for a soldier when straightening his uniform jacket/coat gripping the Sides and pulling Down in order to remove any wrinkles. He does Not reach Back/Behind himself. Reaching Behind yourself and Down into the butt cheek/back pocket area does Not occur when attempting to straighten/zip up a jacket. This is Not we are seeing The Cuban doing.
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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2018, 08:02:34 PM »
You're describing a heavier-weight coat. Guess they don't sell windbreakers where you're from.



If he's not taking in his windblown jacket, then how does the hands resting on the outside surface of the cheeks mean he's tucking something INTO his pocket or waistband, or up his back?

        Thanks for posting that visual aid. That individuals hands are nowhere near his buttocks. To be fair, I would need to see what the situation is here.  It appears he is running and simultaneously struggling to put the jacket on.

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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2018, 09:34:41 PM »
Never said it represented exactly what happened to DCM's jacket went the wind caught it. It was a counterpoint to your description of the wind puffing out a heavier-weight coat.

     

Bothun photo: Jacket seems open.
Bronson photo: May be keeping jacket closed with left hand.
Towner photo: I believe there is still some air trapped at the shoulders and back that is puffing up the jacket.

    Whatever might be going on, you can clearly see his Left Hand extends BELOW the jacket. His Dark Pants are visible Behind his left hand. He is Not touching the Very Light Colored jacket. He is Not tugging at his jacket with his left hand due to a possible wind gust. The left hand is at the level of, possibly in contact with the left back pocket of his Dark pants. I can not clearly see where his right hand is located or what it might be doing.
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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2018, 02:08:03 AM »
Two seconds, Towner to Bothun,
Here's the big names in Bothun

compare them to Towner's GK men, it's very close in time(Cancellare coming in from the right/east).
https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/displayimage.php?pid=354&fullsize=1

"The Cuban" is surrounded by more people with cameras than he's probably ever seen, most of which are pointing directly toward the area he's at and he chooses this moment to pull out a massive walkie talkie and either proclaim victory to his team or tell 'em "ixnay on the hombre, no speakee now"?

"The Cuban" label has to come from the Cutler/Sprague years si?

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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2018, 04:57:25 AM »
Is this another walkie talkie?

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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #70 on: August 18, 2018, 04:46:21 PM »
Is this another walkie talkie?


    SA Clint Hill? Not hardly. This guy looks more like Det. Dietrich prior to his working at the 12th Precinct for Capt. Barney Miller.

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Re: Zapruder's "stick-man" was using a walkie-talkie!
« Reply #71 on: August 18, 2018, 07:42:05 PM »
Royell, Not SA Clint Hill, but the fellow standing beside the road... the arrow points to him... hand up to head...

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« Reply #71 on: August 18, 2018, 07:42:05 PM »