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Offline Tom Scully

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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2018, 11:10:35 PM »
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Tom,

Thank you for posting the link to CE 705. It helped clear things up for me a little bit.
Unit 39 says that he he in 30's station wagon and a few seconds later says, "I'm in the Sergeant's car." He goes on to say, "The other half of 39 is still at the field in the Love Field car.?

Unit 30 was Sergeant R.C. Childers. He was working the Second Platoon Northwest Area Substation.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf
page 9 of that pdf file page 8 of Batchelor's Exhibit CE 5002.

Using CD 1420, here is the exchange:
CD 1420 p. 176
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11815&search=Mockingbird_Lane#relPageId=177&tab=page
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2018, 11:12:25 PM »
Hey, Bill.  Thanks for responding.  I really don't think the SS had any hand in the Kennedy
assassination so whether they were told to stand down or not, is a moot point to me.
Viewing the vid of Lawton does suggest he seemed upset but whether or not
it was a spur of the moment thing to order him to stay back or he was reminded that he was
to stay back doesn't matter.  What does matter to me is what happened afterwards.  Did they
go to lunch somewhere other than Love Field and were they escorted there by one of the
Love Field cars.  From there did they subsequently assist the police in the capture of suspects
tied to the assassination?  If that could have happened then look back at what I presented.
It could fit.

Hope everything is going well with you.


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Hey, Bill.  Thanks for responding.

No worries.


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I really don't think the SS had any hand in the Kennedy assassination...

Good.


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...so whether they were told to stand down or not, is a moot point to me.

Okay.  But, you made it a point (#1 in your original post).


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Viewing the vid of Lawton does suggest he seemed upset...

Secret Service Agent Gerald Blaine stated that Lawton was acting in a joking/mocking manner, as if to say ?It's all yours now, guys. I've done my job. Now get out of here so I can have some lunch.?


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Did they go to lunch somewhere other than Love Field and were they escorted there by one of the Love Field cars.

About fifteen minutes after the motorcade departed Love Field, Henry R y b k a, Don Lawton and Roger Warner (Secret Service, Dallas Field Office) all three went to lunch in the airport restaurant.  They were still in that restaurant when they got word of the shooting and were ordered to return to Air Force One to secure the area.


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From there did they subsequently assist the police in the capture of suspects tied to the assassination?  If that could have happened then look back at what I presented. It could fit.

I appreciate what you're trying to do, Dan.  Keep us posted.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 09:15:53 AM by Bill Brown »

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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2018, 11:18:34 PM »
Hey, Steve (Thomas.)  As you well know this case is confusing enough as it is but I have some
questions with what you and Tom posted. 

1.  The two SS agents went to lunch and it's understandable to me that they would have
went by a Love Field car.

2.  After they heard about the assassination and if they didn't assist the police make
any arrests then they most likely went back to Love Field.

3.  It then occurs to these two agents that they have to go to the Sherirdan, the SS command
post for some reason and 30's station wagon suddenly appears (either marked or unmarked).

4.  If that happened, why would one of the Love Field cars have to go with them?
If you look at the transcripts 39 definitely ended up being there.


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1.  The two SS agents went to lunch and it's understandable to me that they would have
went by a Love Field car.

2.  After they heard about the assassination and if they didn't assist the police make
any arrests then they most likely went back to Love Field.

Lawton and  R y b k a  never left Love Field.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 09:16:33 AM by Bill Brown »

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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2018, 12:09:34 AM »

Well, to quote MacMurphy from Cuckoo's Nest and a bit of Tom Scully.
But I tried, G...damn it.  (And, it was a nice try)  At least, I did that.

That still doesn't take away the possibility that something could have taken
place at Redbird Airfield without any SS agents.

We have a misplaced page before an arrest.
An arrest where the persons are being brought to the downtown jail.
We have SS agents going for lunch.
We have SS agents going downtown. 
A station wagon was mentioned.
A Love Field car going with those agents.

Good landing but in the wrong Airport.


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Offline Tom Scully

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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2018, 12:27:34 AM »
Well, to quote MacMurphy from Cuckoo's Nest and a bit of Tom Scully.
But I tried, G...damn it.  (And, it was a nice try)  At least, I did that.

That still doesn't take away the possibility that something could have taken
place at Redbird Airfield without any SS agents.

We have a misplaced page before an arrest.
An arrest where the persons are being brought to the downtown jail.
We have SS agents going for lunch.
We have SS agents going downtown. 
A station wagon was mentioned.
A Love Field car going with those agents.

Good landing but in the wrong Airport.

Caprio...... consider conducting yourself on this forum reasonably, thoughtfully, honestly, like Dan DAlimonte is, leading us by his example.

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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2018, 12:29:14 AM »
Well, to quote MacMurphy from, Cuckoo's Nest and a little bit of Tom Scully.
But, at least, I tried G.. damn it.  (And, a nice try, it was.)  At least I did that.

We have two SS agents not going with the Motorcade so they go for lunch.
We have a misplaced page in the transcripts before an arrest.
We have persons from that arrest going to the downtown jail.
We have SS agents going downtown and a station wagon is mentioned.
We have a Love Field car going with those SS agents.

And, somehow I made a terrific landing in the wrong airport.

And, speaking of Airports or fields.  I still maintain other assassins were captured
that day at Redbird whether SS agents were there or not.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2018, 02:19:55 AM by Dan DAlimonte »

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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2018, 04:29:50 PM »
G H W Bush was staying at the Sheraton on 11/21

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