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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #152 on: February 16, 2019, 05:54:52 PM »
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  Markham: Total drama queen, but that doesn't mean everything she said was wrong, a lie, etc, and she wasn't the only witness. Callaway positively ID'd Oswald as the armed man he encountered leaving the scene, for instance.
  If one reviews the testimony of Ted Callaway..the name Oswald is never mentioned. According to his affidavit he identified the #2 man that he saw from some 60 feet away in a line up.  This witness stated that the time he heard the shots was about 1:00 PM. It seems probable to me that Callaway might have committed an infraction of the law by taking Tippit's gun.
Markham gave the time as 6 minutes after 1PM. Two witnesses' times that didn't fit the story right.
 

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #153 on: February 16, 2019, 06:59:30 PM »
"but I didn't see anything because I am very nearsighted and I didn't have my glasses on"

How many people ever claimed to see LHO shooting at the motorcade?

Your attempts to discredit Rowland are even more amusing than the Warren Commission's.  I've heard people refer to a "thirty aught six" as "thirty odd six" all my life.

I've heard people refer to a "thirty aught six" as "thirty odd six" all my life.

I believe that's true ....for the southern states....  but probably not so much above the Mason Dixon line....

That's not meant to be derogatory...just a matter of fact.......  And I might add,... Many people referred to any bolt action rifle as a 30.06.....and of course there is no such rifle....    30.06 is a CALIBER of a cartridge  designed in 1906 that used a 150 grain, .308 inch diameter, ( 30 caliber) projectile in the construction.

The cartridge was designed along with the bolt action repeating rifle  at the US army's Springfield armory...  Hench the new rifle was dubbed the Springfield 30.06...

There is no such rifle as a 30.06.....However most folks understand that the term is meant to indicate the "Springfield 30.06" rifle or a rifle made from a Springfield 30.06 rifle. 

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #154 on: February 16, 2019, 07:41:37 PM »


Sure, Ray. Have it your way. There's two black women each hanging out an open window in the set above the front door.

Thank you for posting the nice colored frames from the film.....



And calling attention to the second floor window above the TSBD entrance....

I don't believe there is anybody visible in that window ( window closed Venetian blind up)  in this photo which was taken just seconds before the shooting.

Steve Wilson was inside the third floor window sitting at his desk until he heard gunfire....He then got up and stood behind that window looking down onto Dealey plaza. He said that he remained standing there there behind that window, because he was transfixed by the activity going on beneath the window.

There are two photos that show that third floor window ....One was taken by Tom Dillard and the other was taken by James Powell.....

The Dillard photo was allegedly taken just seconds after the shooting... and it shows NOBODY in the sixth floor window, The three stooges behind the fifth floor windows, and mr Wilson STANDING behind the third floor window.

The Powell photo was allegedly ? taken about thirty seconds AFTER the Dillard Photo.....and it shows "something" that looks like a rifle barrel sticking out of the sixth floor window...Only one of the three stooges behind a fifth floor window, ( looks like BRW ?)

How can we explain Just one of the three stooges being there if the Powell photo was taken after the shooting..... The Dillard photo shows both Jarman and Williams with riveted interest looking toward the triple underpass....While the Powell photo shows just one of the stooges behind the widows.( and he's not interested in the area of the triple underpass) They all three testified that they stood around behind the windows and talked about what had just happened ...and yet They are not there in Powell's photo but the rifle barrel is....  I believe that the chronology of the photos have been reversed....  I believe that Powell took his photo BEFORE the shooting.  And it was intended to be photographic proof that the arch villain Leee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald BOOOOOO! HISSSSS! was caught accidentally on Powells film as he aimed the rifle at JFK.
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #155 on: February 16, 2019, 09:10:18 PM »
I'd still like to know an answer to the original question: Why were there no planted eyewitnesses at the scene to ID Oswald as the assassin?

If you believe all of this evidence was planted to frame Oswald - and that this was done by powerful groups - then why didn't these groups plant four or five people in the Plaza who would say, "I saw Oswald shoot JFK?"

If you think that the witnesses to Oswald's alleged shooting of Tippit were all coached or coerced into implicating him then why aren't there eyewitneses (other than Brennan) who would directly implicate him in shooting JFK?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #156 on: February 16, 2019, 09:44:27 PM »
I'd still like to know an answer to the original question: Why were there no planted eyewitnesses at the scene to ID Oswald as the assassin?

If you believe all of this evidence was planted to frame Oswald - and that this was done by powerful groups - then why didn't these groups plant four or five people in the Plaza who would say, "I saw Oswald shoot JFK?"

If you think that the witnesses to Oswald's alleged shooting of Tippit were all coached or coerced into implicating him then why aren't there eyewitneses (other than Brennan) who would directly implicate him in shooting JFK?

why didn't these groups plant four or five people in the Plaza who would say, "I saw Oswald shoot JFK?"

And what would have happened if several of Lee's fellow employees ( like Jarman and Norman)  had said they saw Lee on the first floor  just before the shooting...

Then those who said they had seen Lee shooting JFK would have drawn attention to themselves.....  Ya dig?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #157 on: February 16, 2019, 10:07:25 PM »
I'd still like to know an answer to the original question: Why were there no planted eyewitnesses at the scene to ID Oswald as the assassin?

If you believe all of this evidence was planted to frame Oswald - and that this was done by powerful groups - then why didn't these groups plant four or five people in the Plaza who would say, "I saw Oswald shoot JFK?"

If you think that the witnesses to Oswald's alleged shooting of Tippit were all coached or coerced into implicating him then why aren't there eyewitneses (other than Brennan) who would directly implicate him in shooting JFK?
Another strawman speculation.
I believe there were these 'witnesses' if they were needed ..but then they weren't needed after all were they?
Did we not read my post on Ptm R C Nelson?----
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Nelson didn?t know it at the time, but those shots were the ones that Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly fired to assassinate the President as his motorcade went down Dealy Plaza in Dallas.
The retired officer says he was at the scene within two minutes and asked a motorcycle patrolman what had happened.
?Somebody shot and killed Kennedy. He was up there (pointing to book depository). I saw the rifle in the window when I looked up.?
A complete fabrication or lie if you will.
https://www.inquisitr.com/1037935/jfk-assassination-witness-speaks-out-for-first-time/
It would not have been conducive to the case to have had law enforcement ID Oswald...it would have looked funny.
 

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #158 on: February 16, 2019, 11:55:32 PM »


Sure, Ray. Have it your way. There's two black women each hanging out an open window in the set above the front door.


Notice that the Queen Mary is just completing the turn onto ELM in front of the TSBD.....The Presidents Lincoln is immediately in front of the QM....Now look up to the fifth floor windows where the three stooges are supposed to be ....are all three of them there?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #159 on: February 17, 2019, 01:46:30 AM »
As for as evidence goes, which pictures posted are correct?  We have exhibit 356 as evidence with different windows open than the Jerry Organ pictures.  What gives?  Why are they showing different floor windows at different states of opening than the exhibit 356.  Which one(s) were planted?   During testimony, they referred to the one below and drew on it while questioning witnesses!


Clearly different than the ones shown below!!!  "6th floor" has different windows open!  Compare it for yourself! 


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