Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?

[John Iacoletti]

I don't 'trust' any individual, uncorroborated eye witness account to be totally accurate. The account given by Brennan of a gunman on ye sixth floor was one of a number of such accounts where the main details agreed.

But not the identity of the shooter.  And there were actually only 2 people who claimed to see a man with a rifle in the 6th floor SE window (Brennan and Euins) and they did not agree on what he looked like.

[Bill Chapman]

No question about that.

However, at its fundamental core, he saw TWO males on the 6th floor - a white armed male in the SW corner (at 12.15 pm) and an unarmed African-American male in the SE corner (at 12.15 pm but gone by 12.25 pm).

He reported this (seeing two people) to a Detective, 10 minutes post assassination.

He told the FBI this but they were interested in ID ing the white male with the rifle.

Seems to me no one cooborated his sightings.

[Bill Chapman]

Do you believe that it was necessary for Arnold to tell Barbara, or anyone else in Dealey plaza, that he saw an unarmed African-American male who was also waiting to see the oncoming Presidential parade?

He also saw many other spectators looking out the windows from the TSBD. There was nothing "special" or "different" about seeing the African-American male.

However he thought the white male  gunman was part of the security detail. Seeing a person with a high powered rifle overlooking the parade route would definitely draw attention enough to comment on, but seeing an unarmed spectator would not have.

If Arnold was fabricating his recollections, it would have been on seeing an armed gunman, not on seeing an unarmed African-American male looking out of a window.

He was the only person who briefly saw an armed white gunman in the SW corner on the 6th floor.

Barbara did not see him.

Hence there was no visual corroboration for Arnold's observation so why did the WC partially believe his testimony? They should have rejected his testimony completely.

Believing?

Pardon the interruption, but are you sure the WC was tasked with trying the case?

[Colin Crow]

The unfinished chicken lunch was initially found in the SN. Numerous police first onto the scene corroborate this.

It was moved westward shortly after its discovery and the chicken placed inside the bag.

This places Williams in the SN window......exactly where Rowland testified.

Williams, Jarman and Norman all provided statements that claimed or implied that Williams ascended to the 5th floor together. This did not happen and they all recanted by the time of their testimony before the WC. The question is why did they feel the need to do so.

[Bill Chapman]

Do you believe that it was necessary for Arnold to tell Barbara, or anyone else in Dealey plaza, that he saw an unarmed African-American male who was also waiting to see the oncoming Presidential parade?

He also saw many other spectators looking out the windows from the TSBD. There was nothing "special" or "different" about seeing the African-American male.

However he thought the white male  gunman was part of the security detail. Seeing a person with a high powered rifle overlooking the parade route would definitely draw attention enough to comment on, but seeing an unarmed spectator would not have.

If Arnold was fabricating his recollections, it would have been on seeing an armed gunman, not on seeing an unarmed African-American male looking out of a window.

He was the only person who briefly saw an armed white gunman in the SW corner on the 6th floor.

Barbara did not see him.

Hence there was no visual corroboration for Arnold's observation so why did the WC partially believe his testimony? They should have rejected his testimony completely.

Rowland initially testified to 'parading man' being 12-15 feet back of the window. Then later changed that to 3-5 feet when, he said, he realized that no one would be able to see the man.

I remain suspicious. After all, the missus informed us of Arnie's fondness for exaggeration.

[Colin Crow]

Rowland initially testified to parading man to being 12-15 feet back of the window. Then later changed that to 3-5 feet when, he said, he realized that no one would be able to see the man.

I remain suspicious. After all, the missus informed us of Arnie's fondness for exaggeration.

Yeah he was only 2-3 feet back and Rowland exaggerated......

Perhaps because Brennan claimed the assassin was sitting on the window ledge he wasn't there at all......ya think?

Qualitative vs quantitative Bill. A Rowland who failed to mention Williams in the SN five minutes before the shots would have been a star witness.

[John Iacoletti]

Barbara did not see him.

But Barbara did acknowledge that he mentioned the SW gunman at the time, which would imply that Rowland didn't invent or embellish the sighting at a later time.

[John Iacoletti]

Rowland initially testified to 'parading man' being 12-15 feet back of the window. Then later changed that to 3-5 feet when, he said, he realized that no one would be able to see the man.

LOL.  Brennan initially said that he could not make a positive identification.  Then later changed that to Oswald.