Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?

[John Iacoletti]

Rowland was shown to be wrong about six different instances in his testimony. Maybe you need to find a different witness. If you want a credible witness go find one.

Yeah, like the guy who saw Oswald crouched down behind boxes taking aim for the head shot FROM THE BELT UP.

[John Iacoletti]

John, l agree. But that isn't a form of corroboration per se. Arnold could well have made that up about seeing a gunman. I don't believe anyone else in Dealey Plaza saw a gunman at the SW corner of the 6th floor at around 12.15 pm. So just because Arnold mentioned it to Barbara didn't immediately imply it was true. On the other hand because he never mentioned seeing the African American to Barbara, at 12.15 pm, didn't mean it was false.

So why did the WC accept one part of his testimony (no corroboration) but rejected his other part of his testimony (no corroboration)?

Shouldn't they had rejected his entire testimony?

Because they still wanted to tick off the "saw a guy with a rifle on the 6th floor" box.  They just couldn't have another guy being there at the time.  So they had to also disregard Carolyn Walther, Ruby Henderson, Norman Similas, and Johnny Powell.

Whatever it takes.

[Nicholas Turner]

So, reading the reports online I see Rowland said initially that he saw someone with a rifle on the sixth floor at about 12.15. He later said this man was in the window at the opposite end of the building (left hand end as you look at it) and added he also saw an elderly black man hanging out of the window where the snipers nest was (right hand end) around 12.25. Is that correct?

[John Iacoletti]

I think Brennan was describing what he saw of the gunman during the head shot and immediately afterward, when the gunman stood up and might have been bend forward for a few seconds as he moved back into the room.

The problem with that is that Brennan didn't describe the guy "standing up" afterwards.  He thought he was standing the entire time.

Rowland's got a different problem. He's describing a rifleman who was never bend and who was always standing.

That's what Hess was trying to model.  With the guy standing up but 5 (or 15 feet) back from the window, he can be seen up to his head from Rowland's position.  The guy in Brennan's window didn't have the luxury of being back from the window.

I wish Hess had tried to model the view from Brennan's position.  It would have been quite enlightening.

[Colin Crow]

And how do we explain the deception attempted by Williams, Jarman and Norman that continued for some time. The statements that implied Williams ascended to the 5th floor with the others?

[John Iacoletti]

Brennan thought the gunman was "standing" in the same sense as the black men were "standing" on the fifth floor.

Right.  So if the guy Brennan saw had actually stood up after the last shot then Brennan would have known that he wasn't standing prior to that.  But he didn't.

But Rowland claimed he saw the standing rifleman from the top of his head to "about 6 inches below his waist, below his belt."

Again, that works if the guy is standing far enough behind the window.

And standing back (as towards the North) even a few feet would mean he was obscured from Rowland's view by the building's brick facade.

I don't agree.  Not at Rowland's angle.  Look at the Hess video again.  Well, I guess it depends on how far back the gunman was.  How about back towards the northwest?

[Mitch Todd]

Because they still wanted to tick off the "saw a guy with a rifle on the 6th floor" box.  They just couldn't have another guy being there at the time.  So they had to also disregard Carolyn Walther, Ruby Henderson, Norman Similas, and Johnny Powell.

Whatever it takes.

Carolyn Walther, she of "She is positive this window was not as high as the sixth floor"?
Ruby Henderson, who's account sounds a lot like her seeing Jarman and Norman?
The Norm Similas whom the RCMP decided was a hoax? The Similas who claimed that a Secret Service agent opened the door of the limo in Dealey Plaza to reveal JFK on the floor?
The Johnny Powell who pops out of the woodwork a decade and a half later?

[Nicholas Turner]

Best to describe it using an image 

The African-American male was seen first, then the white male gunman was seen on the same floor at 12.15 pm. The gunman was only observed once.

The African-American male was no longer seen in the SE corner from ~12.25 pm.



A larger view of the lady in the window



Mr. ROWLAND - From where I was standing I could see from his head to about 6 inches below his waist, below his belt.
Mr. SPECTER - Could you see as far as his knees?
Mr. ROWLAND - No.

Rowland's POV

Thanks. Where does he say he saw the African American person first please? Is it correct he only mentioned on person in his affidavid given on the day?