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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #128 on: September 10, 2018, 02:37:24 PM »
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'30 "odd" six rifle, something that doesn't even exist'

It's possible that he meant 'aught' or the court reporter took it wrong. in my youth, a friends dad had a 30-30 and we described it as seen below

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-06_Springfield

The .30-06 Springfield cartridge (pronounced "thirty-aught-six" or "thirty-oh-six")

There is a 30-30 catridge. A 30-30 is a completely different cartridge from a 30-06. Think like some old west lever actions. 30 Oh 6 would be appropriate but there is no such thing as "odd six." Remember what Rowland was trying to do was present hiself as being knowledgable about guns. Similar to what you see from some members on this forum.

 Specter understood Rowland had no idea what he was talking about and made him keep repeating 30 odd 6 to show he was just making it up. The same as he did with his whole statement. Everything he stated ended up with multiple answers , multiple descriptions, or seeing 5 foot of a man and room through a 2 1/2 foot opening.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #128 on: September 10, 2018, 02:37:24 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #129 on: September 10, 2018, 03:22:34 PM »
There is a 30-30 catridge. A 30-30 is a completely different cartridge from a 30-06. Think like some old west lever actions. 30 Oh 6 would be appropriate but there is no such thing as "odd six." Remember what Rowland was trying to do was present hiself as being knowledgable about guns. Similar to what you see from some members on this forum.

 Specter understood Rowland had no idea what he was talking about and made him keep repeating 30 odd 6 to show he was just making it up. The same as he did with his whole statement. Everything he stated ended up with multiple answers , multiple descriptions, or seeing 5 foot of a man and room through a 2 1/2 foot opening.

So I made a typo. I was familiar with the terms 30-oh-6 and 30-aught-six as a kid.

Rowland might have mistaken the term 'aught' for 'odd'. Maybe he learned that from someone else who made the same mistake. As an example, a woman at a place I used to work called Alzheimer's disease 'alltimers' FFS.

I personally suspect that the guy he saw parading around in the SW corner was Oswald.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2018, 03:27:41 PM »
So I made a typo. I was familiar with the terms 30-oh-6 and 30-aught-six as a kid.

Rowland might have mistaken the term 'aught' for 'odd'. Maybe he learned that from someone else who made the same mistake. As an example, a woman at a place I used to work called Alzheimer's disease 'alltimers' FFS.

I personally suspect that the guy he saw parading around in the SW corner was Oswald.

That would be fine except the individual who was on the 6th floor and had an unobstructed view of the SW corner saw no one.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #131 on: September 10, 2018, 03:36:01 PM »
Consider my breath suitably baited for your considered response.

So your breath is 'baited' huh  :D

Try bated* next time


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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2018, 03:55:04 PM »
That would be fine except the individual who was on the 6th floor and had an unobstructed view of the SW corner saw no one.

BRW said he was back up on the sixth floor by noon, and for 10, 12, 15 minutes. Wasn't the parading dude seen at around 12:15? Seems that leaves some leeway for BRW having buggered off to join his buddies in the meantime.

I maintain that Oswald could have been doing a final check of firing positions, then hot-dogged?for himself?with the post arms thing.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2018, 03:58:32 PM »
BRW said he was back up on the sixth floor by noon, and for 10, 12, 15 minutes. Wasn't the parading dude seen at around 12:15? Seems that leaves some leeway for BRW having buggered off to join his buddies in the meantime.

I maintain that Oswald could have been doing a final check of firing positions, then hot-dogged?for himself?with the post arms thing.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #134 on: September 10, 2018, 04:04:20 PM »
Maybe read more post less

That's helpful, 2-shot Jack
And tell us Rowland's motivation

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #135 on: September 10, 2018, 04:27:19 PM »
OK, let's assume that Arnie saw a gunman on the 6th floor. Since he asked Babs if she wanted to see a Secret Service agent, that's a reasonable assumption.

Now, he could have been wrong, just like he was mistaken about the age of the person on the other end of the floor. Or about how far the guman was from the window.

But let's say he was right.

What precludes the gunman from seeing BRW before BRW sees him? After all, Arnie only saw the gunman for a few seconds.

BRW is busy munching on his sammich and looking out the window, right ?

Maybe the gunman retreats into the stairwell contemplating what to do next and then luckily for him, BRW departs to join his buddies - and the plan is back on.

Possible ?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #135 on: September 10, 2018, 04:27:19 PM »