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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #192 on: January 23, 2018, 05:31:44 PM »
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For a start you didn't reference Ball in your comment so blaming Ball for your Woman bashing insult is a gutless cop out.

Don't blame me for your lack of knowledge about the case.

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Ball interacted with a plethora of witnesses and he concluded from all these witnesses that Oswald did it beyond all doubt,

I don't care what he "concluded", I care about the quality of the evidence (or the lack thereof) that the conclusion is based on.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #193 on: January 23, 2018, 05:46:01 PM »
Or, maybe you simply don't know the meaning of very basic words, like "similar".

Or, maybe you simply don't know the meaning of very basic words, like "match".  Are those fibers exclusive to one particular shirt?  Yes or no?

Anything to railroad your suspect with phony rhetoric.  Right?

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #194 on: January 23, 2018, 05:46:43 PM »
He wanted her to understand the questions.

Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men*

*Meaning prior to that day

Who ever said "prior to that day"?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #195 on: January 23, 2018, 05:49:08 PM »
So the fibers jumped into the sleeves of Oswald's jacket and the same fibers lodged themselves in Oswald's rifle?

What gave you the idea that the fibers in the jacket were the same fibers in the rifle?

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #196 on: January 23, 2018, 06:25:04 PM »
There is no solid chain of custody for the white jacket found at the carpark. The initials on the jacket were place there at the police station (just like it happened with the revolver) and (if Westbrook's testimony is to be believed) clearly do not correspond with the officers who actually found that jacket and took it to the station.

Except for Earlene Roberts saying so (and she was half blind and paying more attention to the TV) there is no evidence that Oswald left the rooming house wearing a jacket at all and even Roberts rejected CE 162 because the jacket she claimed to have seen was darker.

That same afternoon, DPD officers took all Oswald's belongings from the rooming house and took them to the station. If the gray jacket (CE 162) was even in Oak Cliff (and not in Irving) this is how the gray jacket could have gotten to the police station.

The same goes for the search without a warrant at Ruth Paine's house. If the gray jacket was actually there, DPD officers could have brought in to the station from there.

"Except for Earlene Roberts saying so (and she was half blind* and paying more attention to the TV")
Good thing she was only half blind, huh...still had the other half to watch Oswald zip up his jacket

*She was blind in one eye, so I suppose that makes her 'half blind' percentage-wise LOL

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #197 on: January 23, 2018, 06:31:26 PM »
"Except for Earlene Roberts saying so (and she was half blind* and paying more attention to the TV")
Good thing she was only half blind, huh...still had the other half to watch Oswald zip up his jacket

*She was blind in one eye, so I suppose that makes her 'half blind' percentage-wise LOL

It must be hard for you having to rely fully on a half blind woman who was paying more attention to the TV and who was known for making up stuff...

Can you imagine how the defense would have a field day destroying this witness (and a few others) on the stand, had it come to a trial?
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Offline Gary Craig

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« Reply #198 on: January 23, 2018, 07:16:31 PM »
Lee Oswald's housekeeper
Lee Oswald's housekeeper (Earlene Roberts, right) and landlady (Gladys Johnson, left) photographed at Oswald's rooming house on the evening of the JFK assassination Courtesy Fort Worth Star-Telegram Collection, Special Collections Division, University of Texas at Arlington Libraries


Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #199 on: January 23, 2018, 09:26:08 PM »
So you didn't understand cross contamination.

If the transfer of fibers happened while the DPD was handling the evidence they are irrelevant to the case.

What ever case you're trying to make.

I absolutely understand cross contamination.

Finally, you decided to make a point, regarding such a thing.

Show your evidence that the jacket was sitting beside the arrest shirt on a table top or that the two were placed in a box together or anything like that.  Go on.  I'll wait.

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« Reply #199 on: January 23, 2018, 09:26:08 PM »