Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

[John Iacoletti]

I have posted dozens of pages (on this forum and the old one) of evidence that would be used in court (had Oswald went to trial) that would convict Oswald for Tippit's murder.

Again, you actually have no idea what would have been used in court had Oswald gone to trial.  Or what the outcome might have been.  That's all in your head and doesn't actually prove anything.

You have never posted anything showing ANY evidence whatsoever that points to someone other than Oswald.  Why is that?

Why do I need to?  Guilty until proven innocent?

[Gary Craig]

Oswald wore that shirt when he was arrested.  If he was not wearing that shirt while shooting from the sniper's nest window, then he removed it while he was waiting for the motorcade to arrive and then used that shirt to quickly wipe down the rifle in hopes of removing his fingerprints.

It would have taken Oswald mere seconds to wipe down the rifle and then put the shirt on as he descended the first flight of stairs.

He changed his shirt and trousers at his room.

The shirt he was arrested in wasn't the shirt he wore to work on 11/22/63.

Officer Baker testified to the WC that he was wearing different clothes when he saw him at the police

station than when he saw him in the TSBD.

Fibers matching the arrest shirt to the TSBD Carcano point to a frame up not Ozzie's guilt.

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REPORT OF CAPT. J. W. FRITZ, DALLAS POLICE
                               DEPARTMENT

INTERROGATION OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD

~snip~

I asked him where he went to  when  he  left
work,  and he told me that he had a room on 1026 North Beckley, that  he
went over there and changed his trousers.....

~snip~

[Bill Brown]

Because you've done this sort of thing before.  You just decide that your definition of a word is the "correct" one.

But rather that arguing about this, how about you just answer the question?  Whether the fibers are similar or whether they "match" in a way that doesn't exclude other sources,

So What?

Because you've done this sort of thing before.  You just decide that your definition of a word is the "correct" one.

My definition is the correct one.  Your definition is way off base.  Learn the difference between match and similar.

But rather that arguing about this, how about you just answer the question?  Whether the fibers are similar or whether they "match" in a way that doesn't exclude other sources,

So What?

I've already stated that the matching fibers do not exclude other shirts in the world with the dark blue, gray-black and orange-yellow matching fibers.

However, don't try to pretend for a second that the fact that the fibers were a match means nothing.  The fiber match is yet another thing to present to the jury in an attempt to convince them that the jacket was Oswald's and in an attempt to change his appearance he ditched the jacket after killing a police officer only minutes ago.

[Bill Brown]

Why do I need to?  Guilty until proven innocent?

Translation:  I have no evidence whatsoever which points to someone other than Lee Oswald.

[Bill Brown]

He changed his shirt and trousers at his room.

The shirt he was arrested in wasn't the shirt he wore to work on 11/22/63.

Officer Baker testified to the WC that he was wearing different clothes when he saw him at the police

station than when he saw him in the TSBD.

Fibers matching the arrest shirt to the TSBD Carcano point to a frame up not Ozzie's guilt.

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REPORT OF CAPT. J. W. FRITZ, DALLAS POLICE
                               DEPARTMENT

INTERROGATION OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD

~snip~

I asked him where he went to  when  he  left
work,  and he told me that he had a room on 1026 North Beckley, that  he
went over there and changed his trousers.....

~snip~

How does changing one's "trousers" translate to changing one's shirt?

[Gary Craig]

How does changing one's "trousers" translate to changing one's shirt?

 

REPORT OF CAPT. J. W. FRITZ, DALLAS POLICE
                               DEPARTMENT

INTERROGATION OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD

~snip~

I asked him where he went to  when  he  left
work,  and he told me that he had a room on 1026 North Beckley, that  he
went over there and changed his trousers.....

~snip~

During  this  conversation  he told me he reached his home  by  cab  and
changed  his shirt and trousers before going to the show.  He  said  his
cab  fare  was 85 cents.  When asked what he did with his  clothing,  he
took off when he got home, he said he put them in the dirty clothes.

~snip~

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He changed his shirt and trousers at his room.

The shirt he was arrested in wasn't the shirt he wore to work on 11/22/63.

Officer Baker testified to the WC that he was wearing different clothes when he saw him at the police

station than when he saw him in the TSBD.

Fibers matching the arrest shirt to the TSBD Carcano point to a frame up not Ozzie's guilt.

[John Mytton]

I don't believe Oswald had a place for "dirty laundry" per se. I see in the photo above (of items seized at North Beckley) what the inventory calls:

• "brown shirt"
• "pair grey trousers"

Pat Speer obtained a color photo of the North Beckley rooming-house shirt from the National Archives.



( Speer webpage: http://www.patspeer.com/chapter-4b-threads-of-evidence )

Oswald's arrest shirt has been published on the web in some odd ways:



(Above: Image on the left was probably taken with a modern digital camera and may be the most accurate of the three. )



TV image that I think could be brighter.

So if Oswald did change his shirt at the rooming house (and the shirt found there is that shirt), he put on a very similar (tone and color) shirt that he apparently had on when arrested. Therefore I can see why Marina thought the arrest shirt was the one he wore when he arrived in Irving on Thursday.

Thanks for posting those comparison photos, it seems to me that some of those shirt photos have been artificially enhanced, who would do such a thing and what would they have to gain??



JohnM

[Gary Craig]

I don't believe Oswald had a place for "dirty laundry" per se. I see in the photo above (of items seized at North Beckley) what the inventory calls:

• "brown shirt"
• "pair grey trousers"

Pat Speer obtained a color photo of the North Beckley rooming-house shirt from the National Archives.



( Speer webpage: http://www.patspeer.com/chapter-4b-threads-of-evidence )

Oswald's arrest shirt has been published on the web in some odd ways:



(Above: Image on the left was probably taken with a modern digital camera and may be the most accurate of the three. )



TV image that I think could be brighter.

So if Oswald did change his shirt at the rooming house (and the shirt found there is that shirt), he put on a very similar (tone and color) shirt that he apparently had on when arrested. Therefore I can see why Marina thought the arrest shirt was the one he wore when he arrived in Irving on Thursday.

Two different shirts.

The one from the rooming house was a solid color.

The arrest shirt wasn't.


He changed his shirt and trousers at his room.

The shirt he was arrested in wasn't the shirt he wore to work on 11/22/63.

Officer Baker testified to the WC that he was wearing different clothes when he saw him at the police

station than when he saw him in the TSBD.

Fibers matching the arrest shirt to the TSBD Carcano point to a frame up not Ozzie's guilt.