In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?

[John Iacoletti]

Not to mention that the conspirators would somehow have to know that Tomlinson would find a bullet and then substitute CE399 into the evidence.

How would the conspirators know that Tomlinson would find a bullet unless Tomlinson was one of the conspirators ?  And if Tomlinson was a bullet planting conspirator why the heck did he plant a bullet that wasn't identical to the ammo Saint Patsy used ?

The entire 'CE399 was planted' narrative is a bunch of delusional kookery easily dispelled through the application of common sense.

Unfortunately, common sense isn't a trait exhibited by the kooks, but at least the crap they spew is good for a laugh.

Speaking of kooks spewing crap....

Was it some kind of secret that Tomlinson found a bullet?  Why would anybody have to have known that in advance?

Keeping calling your incoherent babbling "common sense" though.  It's good for a laugh.

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes, the bullet was recovered. No, it didn't disappear into thin air. The bullet currently resides in the National Archive.

Your opinion that no shots came from the sniper's nest is contradicted by two witnesses that saw a gunman firing from there, another witness that saw a gun barrel being withdrawn from the window, 3 witnesses on the floor below the sniper's nest that testified they heard shots come from there, and 3 spent cartridges found on the floor in the sniper's nest.

Your opinion is worthless horsecrap.

Your opinion that no shots came from the sniper's nest is contradicted by two witnesses that saw a gunman firing from there

Would you please post the identities of these two witnesses.....

But, IF there were two witnesses who saw a gunman firing from the SE corner window..... Why did it take over a half hour for the police to discover the location?     If at least two witnesses saw a man firing a rifle from that SE corner window commonsense would dictate that the police would have been at that site in a matter of minutes. 

[Nicholas Turner]

Isn't every "I don't believe conspirators would have done that" / "I don't believe Oswald would have done that" argument a personal incredulity fallacy though?

Yes, but its when people don't recognise that that it becomes a problem. This leads to people thinking what they are saying is a fact, which then leads to arguments, insults and pointless discussions. Its fine to express an opinion but to claim that as fact and defend it isn't valid.

[John Iacoletti]

So a Carcano round fired into pavement will bury itself as if the asphalt were rubber? The Haggs found that the bullet disintegrated.

Is there some evidence that there was ever a crater in the asphalt on Elm street?

[Bill Chapman]

I have no idea, Bill. Guess it would depend on varying factors, such as the amount and density of the cotton or whatever substance that's being fired into.

My point is that the varying factors would be unknown by CottonMan, going in.

[Howard Gee]

My point is that the varying factors would be unknown by CottonMan conspirators, going in.

Oviously, the conspirators would have at least a dozen or so bullets waiting to be planted, ranging from nearly pristine to extremely mangled.     

[John Iacoletti]

Fantasy strawman conspirators aside, is there any evidence that CE 399 was the bullet found at Parkland or that CE 399 ever went through Kennedy or Connally?

[Allan Fritzke]

Depends. The bullet struck a glancing blow along the rib. Was it tumbling or slowed down. A bullet that stuck a rib nose-on at full-velocity is not what happened to Connally according to the WCR. It's instead what some critics claim happened.

If you mean the 2013 PBS Special "Cold Case JFK", the Haggs are merely career ballistics-experts, absentmindedly conducting meaningless tests using the exact same type of rifle and ammunition that the WC said Oswald used.

So a Carcano round fired into pavement will bury itself as if the asphalt were rubber? The Haggs found that the bullet disintegrated.

A M-C bullet hitting hard tissue (like the thick skull bone) nose-on would have a different outcome than the same type of M-C bullet passing through soft tissue and then hitting a thin bone (like the fifth rib) after supposedly being slowed down and tumbling.

Rather than going Rube Goldberg, maybe watch the 2013 PBS Special to learn from the Haggs.

I finally found a youtube location for the 1988 Nova Film! It is well hidden amongst all the threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oHAbCu_LbM

I couldn't imagine the damage a tumbling bullet must have done when the above documentary suggested the pulverized rib (20:20)was removed from Connally's body.  If the bullet was tumbling as suggested,  then there should not have been any problem extracting this low velocity projectile from Connally's thigh!  Instead it disintegrated or become the pristine bullet found near a nearby stretcher (17:38) and passed to a forensic lab through 5 different people!

With respect to the bullet that hit the pavement, did they take pictures of the crater it made?  How were we made to believe that it existed? By eyewitness testimony only? Or picture as well?