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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2018, 08:43:35 PM »
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Fantasy strawman conspirators aside, is there any evidence that CE 399 was the bullet found at Parkland or that CE 399 ever went through Kennedy or Connally?

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2018, 08:43:35 PM »


Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #105 on: September 20, 2018, 03:22:32 AM »
Depends. The bullet struck a glancing blow along the rib. Was it tumbling or slowed down. A bullet that stuck a rib nose-on at full-velocity is not what happened to Connally according to the WCR. It's instead what some critics claim happened.

If you mean the 2013 PBS Special "Cold Case JFK", the Haggs are merely career ballistics-experts, absentmindedly conducting meaningless tests using the exact same type of rifle and ammunition that the WC said Oswald used.

So a Carcano round fired into pavement will bury itself as if the asphalt were rubber? The Haggs found that the bullet disintegrated.

A M-C bullet hitting hard tissue (like the thick skull bone) nose-on would have a different outcome than the same type of M-C bullet passing through soft tissue and then hitting a thin bone (like the fifth rib) after supposedly being slowed down and tumbling.

Rather than going Rube Goldberg, maybe watch the 2013 PBS Special to learn from the Haggs.
I finally found a youtube location for the 1988 Nova Film! It is well hidden amongst all the threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oHAbCu_LbM

I couldn't imagine the damage a tumbling bullet must have done when the above documentary suggested the pulverized rib (20:20)was removed from Connally's body.  If the bullet was tumbling as suggested,  then there should not have been any problem extracting this low velocity projectile from Connally's thigh!  Instead it disintegrated or become the pristine bullet found near a nearby stretcher (17:38) and passed to a forensic lab through 5 different people!

With respect to the bullet that hit the pavement, did they take pictures of the crater it made?  How were we made to believe that it existed? By eyewitness testimony only? Or picture as well?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2018, 12:59:35 AM »
I finally found a youtube location for the 1988 Nova Film! It is well hidden amongst all the threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oHAbCu_LbM

I couldn't imagine the damage a tumbling bullet must have done when the above documentary suggested the pulverized rib (20:20)was removed from Connally's body.  If the bullet was tumbling as suggested,  then there should not have been any problem extracting this low velocity projectile from Connally's thigh!  Instead it disintegrated or become the pristine bullet found near a nearby stretcher (17:38) and passed to a forensic lab through 5 different people!

With respect to the bullet that hit the pavement, did they take pictures of the crater it made?  How were we made to believe that it existed? By eyewitness testimony only? Or picture as well?

I tried to watch the video being narrated by LBJ's buddy Uncle Walter Cronkite....  But I couldn't handle the lies being told ......

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2018, 12:59:35 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2018, 01:06:47 AM »
Fantasy strawman conspirators aside, is there any evidence that CE 399 was the bullet found at Parkland or that CE 399 ever went through Kennedy or Connally?

Here we go again, either CE399 was found at Parkland or CE399 was planted, which again leads to your massive conspiracy that for some reason you don't want to acknowledge.

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #108 on: September 21, 2018, 02:23:21 AM »
Here we go again, either CE399 was found at Parkland or CE399 was planted, which again leads to your massive conspiracy that for some reason you don't want to acknowledge.

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either CE399 was found at Parkland or CE399 was planted

Again, why do you assume that the bullet now in evidence as CE399 was ever at Parkland Hospital to begin with?

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #109 on: September 21, 2018, 02:33:54 AM »
either CE399 was found at Parkland or CE399 was planted

Again, why do you assume that the bullet now in evidence as CE399 was ever at Parkland Hospital to begin with?

What evidence do you have that CE399 was never at Parkland?

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2018, 03:28:01 AM »

What evidence do you have that CE399 was never at Parkland?

JohnM

Nope, this "prove a negative" game ain't gonna work! 

You basically claim the bullet now in evidence as CE399 was found as Parkland. You need to show it actually was. Can you?

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2018, 03:32:07 AM »
Nope, this "prove a negative" game ain't gonna work! 

You basically claim the bullet now in evidence as CE399 was found as Parkland. You need to show it actually was. Can you?

If you think there's something wrong with the evidence then be specific.

JohnM

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2018, 03:32:07 AM »