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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #144 on: September 23, 2018, 04:05:21 AM »
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BTW that was just one piece in a very large jigsaw that when all the pieces are viewed as a whole points to Oswald and only Oswald as the double murderer.

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
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« Reply #145 on: September 23, 2018, 04:12:35 AM »
How, to any rational mind, does leaving a wedding ring (if that's what happened) and some money for his kids constitute "evidence" of anything?

5. Friday morning, before leaving Ruth Paine?s house in Irving, Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170, believed to be virtually all of his money, for Marina, demonstrating that he realized he might never see her again?that is, he might not survive the assassination he was contemplating. Moreover, as he left Marina that morning, Oswald told her to use the money to buy shoes for their new baby, Rachel, and ?anything? else that she felt was necessary for the children. Marina thought this to be strange since Oswald had always been ?most frugal? and hardly allowed her to spend any money at all.
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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #146 on: September 23, 2018, 04:27:03 AM »
5. Friday morning, before leaving Ruth Paine?s house in Irving, Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170, believed to be virtually all of his money, for Marina, demonstrating that he realized he might never see her again?that is, he might not survive the assassination he was contemplating. Moreover, as he left Marina that morning, Oswald told her to use the money to buy shoes for their new baby, Rachel, and ?anything? else that she felt was necessary for the children. Marina thought this to be strange since Oswald had always been ?most frugal? and hardly allowed her to spend any money at all.
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The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. Using your standard, which amounts to feelings and unwarranted
assumptions as to what is obvious, would you agree this testimony closes the question concerning the reliability of Earline Roberts?

Or do you simply assert a right to be Gumbyesque as to criteria you allow to form your assumptions?
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http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/johnso_g.htm
.....Mr. BALL. Has she been working for you for that period of time?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No, sir; I let Mrs. Roberts go a time or two, then I would hire her back.
Mr. BALL. there some reason why you let her go?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Well, she would just get to being disagreeable with renters and I don't know, she has a lot of handicaps. She has an overweight problem and she has some habits that some people have to understand to tolerate.

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Mr. BALL. What are they?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Talking just sitting down and making up tales, you know, have you ever seen people like that? Just have a creative mind, there's nothing to it, and just make up and keep talking until she just makes a lie out of it. Listen, I'm telling you the truth and this isn't to go any further, understand that? You have to know these things because you are going to question this lady. I will tell you, she's just as intelligent--I think she is a person that doesn't mean to do that but she just does it automatically. It seems as though that she, oh, I don't know, wants to be attractive or something at times. I just don't know; I don't understand it myself. I only wish I did. ....

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #147 on: September 23, 2018, 04:33:55 AM »
The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. Using your standard, which amounts to feelings and unwarranted
assumptions as to what is obvious, would you agree this testimony closes the question concerning the reliability of Earline Roberts?

Or do you simply assert a right to be Gumbyesque as to criteria you allow to form your assumptions?

Hey, the above is from Bugliosi.

And as for Gumby have you traced his family tree back to where it intersects with Jack Ruby?

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #148 on: September 23, 2018, 04:45:34 AM »
Once again Caprio suckers you people with a question he knows cannot be answered.  When you then attempt to give your opinions, he puts you down with insults.  When will you learn? This is the illness that is Caprio.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #149 on: September 23, 2018, 04:47:09 AM »

What's your thinking on why Oswald let almost all of his 'savings' and his wedding ring? Surley not the action of a normal husband setting off to work.


I'm not even sure he actually left his wedding ring, but even if he did, he might will have believed his marriage was over after Marina refused to move back in with him.

As for the money, I don't know it was "almost all of his savings" and neither do you. A father leaving money to provide for his kids doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #150 on: September 23, 2018, 04:51:53 AM »
5. Friday morning, before leaving Ruth Paine?s house in Irving, Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170, believed to be virtually all of his money, for Marina, demonstrating that he realized he might never see her again?that is, he might not survive the assassination he was contemplating. Moreover, as he left Marina that morning, Oswald told her to use the money to buy shoes for their new baby, Rachel, and ?anything? else that she felt was necessary for the children. Marina thought this to be strange since Oswald had always been ?most frugal? and hardly allowed her to spend any money at all.
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Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170, believed to be virtually all of his money, for Marina,

Really? And Bugs knows this, how?

demonstrating that he realized he might never see her again

Oh boy.... How in the world would Bugs know something like that?. Answer: he doesn't, he pulled it out of his a....

Marina thought this to be strange since Oswald had always been ?most frugal? and hardly allowed her to spend any money at all.


Wow... he must be guilty of a double murder  :D

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #151 on: September 23, 2018, 03:49:16 PM »
I'm not even sure he actually left his wedding ring, but even if he did, he might will have believed his marriage was over after Marina refused to move back in with him.

As for the money, I don't know it was "almost all of his savings" and neither do you. A father leaving money to provide for his kids doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

One of the strawman brothers again suggests that evidence is suspect but I'm sure he doesn't mean to imply anything sinister.  Oswald didn't have his wedding ring on when photographed after his arrest.  You can see it is not on his finger (he wore it on his right hand in the Russian tradition) in photographs.  But here we have the baseless suggestion of someone who is not "sure he actually left his wedding ring" despite testimony from Marina that is was left for the first and only time of their marriage on the very morning Oswald is arrested for the assassination of the president.  What bad luck.  I guess the plan was to remove Oswald's wedding ring, somehow plant it back at the Paine house or get Marina to lie about it for the purpose of providing evidence that is not evidence of Oswald's guilt according to the strawman brothers.  Great plan.  Seems like a lot of effort given the mountain of evidence that already linked Oswald to the crime.  They have to pile on by adding his wedding ring into the mix at significant risk.  What if someone in the crowd had a film or photo of Oswald with his ring on etc.  It's ludicrous.

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #151 on: September 23, 2018, 03:49:16 PM »