Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar

[Walt Cakebread]

Bags come in all shapes and sizes. But if you are claiming that Oswald did not use a bag of any kind to take a rifle to New Orleans, then please tell me what he did use to conceal the weapon on public transport?

Or are you saying that he never took a rifle to New Orleans in the first place?

Lee Oswald had a standard issue sea bag.  Those bags are not long enough to hold a 40 inch long rifle.

I very seriously doubt that Lee took a rifle to New Orleans when he left Dallas on a bus.  I believe that George De M had taken possession of the carcano before he left Dallas.   I know there's little evidence for that..... But there's also very little evidence that Lee had the carcano among is possessions when he boarded the bus for N.O.

I know that Marina has said that she saw Lee with a rifle in N.O.   But I'm not at all convinced that the rifle she saw in N.O. was the carcano that Lee used to pose for the B.Y. photo.     

[Jerry Freeman]

Lee Oswald had a standard issue sea bag.  Those bags are not long enough to hold a 40 inch long rifle.
I know that Marina has said that she saw Lee with a rifle in N.O.

The Warren apologists will just say that he must have dismantled it.
That rifle must have been taken apart and then reassembled more times than Mr Potatohead
Of course the location of the pistol [remember that?] remains a mystery too. How did it get around?
I guess they'll say he kept it down in his jock strap.
Marina was coerced....anyone with a sliver of a brain can see that.
Dismiss her statements and the Warren gang had no case at all against Oswald.

[Richard Smith]

The Warren apologists will just say that he must have dismantled it.
That rifle must have been taken apart and then reassembled more times than Mr Potatohead
Of course the location of the pistol [remember that?] remains a mystery too. How did it get around?
I guess they'll say he kept it down in his jock strap.
Marina was coerced....anyone with a sliver of a brain can see that.
Dismiss her statements and the Warren gang had no case at all against Oswald.

How was Marina coerced when she directed the police to the blanket expecting the rifle to be found there on Nov. 22 when they very first arrived?  She even indicated that she checked to see if the blanket was there BEFORE the police even arrived.  Good grief.  Oswald was apparently the only person in Dallas not involved in the conspiracy.

[Walt Cakebread]

How was Marina coerced when she directed the police to the blanket expecting the rifle to be found there on Nov. 22 when they very first arrived?  She even indicated that she checked to see if the blanket was there BEFORE the police even arrived.  Good grief.  Oswald was apparently the only person in Dallas not involved in the conspiracy.

She even indicated that she checked to see if the blanket was there BEFORE the police even arrived.

Is it reasonable that Marina would merely look at the blanket on the floor?...    Considering the reason that she  allegedly went to the garage ( because she was alarmed that Lee might have been involved) wouldn't she logically have physically checked the blanket to see if the rifle was in the blanket ?  And then when the police asked her if Lee owned a rifle she would have answered "NO" he did not.....   BUT when Detective Rose asked Ruth Paine ( interpreting for Marina) if Lee owned a rifle she ( Marina understood the question and answered "Yes" , and indicated the the rifle was in the garage, and beckoned Rose to follow her to the garage...... Where they found no trace of a rifle.  ( nor was there any object in the rolled up blanket.)   

There are many questions raised by this episode .....  But the big question seems to be..... Why would Ruth Paine answer for Marina that Lee did not own a rifle when Marina clearly told her and Detective Rose that "YES" Lee did own a rifle?   Even Marina was taken aback by Ruth Paine's reply to detective Rose that "No" Lee didn't own a rifle when Marina had just stated that "YES" Lee did own a rifle.

[Richard Smith]

She even indicated that she checked to see if the blanket was there BEFORE the police even arrived.

Is it reasonable that Marina would merely look at the blanket on the floor?...    Considering the reason that she  allegedly went to the garage ( because she was alarmed that Lee might have been involved) wouldn't she logically have physically checked the blanket to see if the rifle was in the blanket ?  And then when the police asked her if Lee owned a rifle she would have answered "NO" he did not.....   BUT when Detective Rose asked Ruth Paine ( interpreting for Marina) if Lee owned a rifle she ( Marina understood the question and answered "Yes" , and indicated the the rifle was in the garage, and beckoned Rose to follow her to the garage...... Where they found no trace of a rifle.  ( nor was there any object in the rolled up blanket.)   

This is very tortured logic and contains a number of false premises.  Why would Marina bother to check for the blanket at all unless she believed that it contained Oswald's rifle?  There is no reason for her to do so after learing of the assassination unless she knew that Oswald kept his rifle in the blanket.  Your subjective opinion that she would have looked in the blanket is not relevant to that point.  The point is that Marina's actions confirmed that Oswald kept a rifle in the blanket. She was concerned he might be involved so checked to make sure that the blanket where she knew he kept the rifle was still there.  And because she checked for it both BEFORE the police came and directed them to it in the moments after they first arrived, her confirmation at that early point could not have been the result of any coercion as you falsely suggested.  Why would she have responded in the negative to the police regarding a question as to whether her husband owned a rifle even if she had checked the blanket and not found it?  They didn't ask her if the rifle was still in the blanket but whether he owned a rifle.  She knew that he had.  The police wouldn't have had a clue at that point as to where he kept it.  That is why they were asking in the first place.

[John Iacoletti]

The point is that Marina's actions confirmed that Oswald kept a rifle in the blanket.

Bull.  It merely shows that Marina assumed he kept a rifle in the blanket.

[Walt Cakebread]

Bull.  It merely shows that Marina assumed he kept a rifle in the blanket.

I believe at some point Marina had seen Lee wrapping a rifle in a blanket..... What rifle?....And where did it occur ??

And whose rifle was it???    I've long wondered if the .22 caliber rifle that Lee's brother had kept for him, was the rifle that Marina had seen Lee wrapping in a blanket??    There simply isn't any evidence that the TSBD carcano (C2766) was ever  wrapped in that blanket.   The FBI did not find a single blanket fiber adhering to that carcano, and i find that utterly incredible .....If that carcano had been wrapped in that blanket.

[Walt Cakebread]

This is very tortured logic and contains a number of false premises.  Why would Marina bother to check for the blanket at all unless she believed that it contained Oswald's rifle?  There is no reason for her to do so after learing of the assassination unless she knew that Oswald kept his rifle in the blanket.  Your subjective opinion that she would have looked in the blanket is not relevant to that point.  The point is that Marina's actions confirmed that Oswald kept a rifle in the blanket. She was concerned he might be involved so checked to make sure that the blanket where she knew he kept the rifle was still there.  And because she checked for it both BEFORE the police came and directed them to it in the moments after they first arrived, her confirmation at that early point could not have been the result of any coercion as you falsely suggested.  Why would she have responded in the negative to the police regarding a question as to whether her husband owned a rifle even if she had checked the blanket and not found it?  They didn't ask her if the rifle was still in the blanket but whether he owned a rifle.  She knew that he had.  The police wouldn't have had a clue at that point as to where he kept it.  That is why they were asking in the first place.

Your subjective opinion that she would have looked in the blanket is not relevant to that point.

So based on your logic ....  Just the sight of the blanket would have been enough to allay her concern? 

Only Marina knows if you're right...... And  Only Marina knows the truth about the rifle on the garage ....