O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House

[John Iacoletti]

If anybody else blatantly lied about the evidence like you do, I would point it out.  You're just mad that I can post there and you cannot.

[Zeon Mason]

Bledsoe saw a hole in the elbow part of the brown shirt sleeve?
then Oswald must Have been wearing a jacket overtop the brown shirt and had the jacket sleeves rolled up above the elbow = absurd
Or he was carrying the jacket Folded over his arm or similar way just carrying it with him ?

Can anyone show some statement from Bledsoe to resolve this dilemma?

Otherwise Bledsoe saw some other Oswald or she has mistaken some other bus passenger for Oswald like McWatters the bus driver did.

Does anyone think that someone desiring to avoid FBI surveillance would choose an alias exactly his real name in reverse order?

Or carry a fake alias ID with him after shooting JFK with a rifle ordered by mail using that fake name?

Or ordered rifle by mail order writing the fake name in his own handwriting style?

Or having rifle sent to a P.O. Box addressed to his REAL name too?

Or Drops his fake ID inside a wallet at the scene where he just shot a police officer?

Removes shells one at a time from
His revolver while still at the scene and knowing he is being observed by witnesses?

Keeps the revolver used to shoot Tippit all the way to a theater and keeps weapon on his person even when it’s obvious police are about to enter the theater?

Supposedly had plan to have shootout    With police sometime after shooting Tippit , thus a reason to keep revolver, yet does not take Tippits revolver for added firepower?

Takes the bus transfer ticket from the pocket of shirt he changed from to the pocket Of the shirt he put on at the boarding room even though the ticket has expired at 1:00 pm?

a paper bus transfer ticket touched by McWatters bare fingers and also touched by Oswalds bare fingers upon receiving it and then touching it again to place in the pocket of his other shirt
Yet no fingerprints found on the ticket

Loose  shells in shirt pocket and ticket apparently able to not fall out and ticket not bent while struggling with police both inside and outside of theater

And said items not “discovered” in the shirt pocket until several hours later

[Tom Scully]

Someone in authority obviously knew he was there - a police car honked while he was inside at 1pm on Nov 22nd 1963.

And the driver of that police car never came forward even though the WC were searching everywhere for the driver. Could it have been Tippit?

The sole source, of "honking police car" influencing your belief and your opinion of "the driver of that police car never came forward" was so flawed that her influence on you results in a waste of your time and of readers' time. So much distracting, unreliable influences have tainted so many minds made up under the influence of the assertions of impaired, dishonest, or merely attention craving witnesses. And then there were also the carnival barker, Penn Jones type personalities injecting themselves, turning their distractions into lifetime gigs.

Cache link to McAdams site

......Mr. BALL. Did a police car pass the house there and honked?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. When was that?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He came in the house.
Mr. BALL. When he came in the house ?
Mrs. ROBERTS. When he came in the house and went to his room, you know how the sidewalk runs?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Right direct in front of that door-there was a police car stopped and honked. I had worked for some policemen and sometimes they come by and tell me something that maybe their wives would want me to know, and I thought it was them, and I just glanced out and saw the number, and I said, "Oh, that's not their car," for I knew their car.
Mr. BALL. You mean, it was not the car of the policemen you knew?
Mrs. ROBERTS. It wasn't the police car I knew, because their number was 170 and it wasn't 170 and I ignored it.
Mr. BALL. And who was in the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't know--I didn't pay any attention to it after I noticed it wasn't them-I didn't.
Mr. BALL. Where was it parked ?
Mrs. ROBERTS. It was parked in front of the house.
Mr. BALL. At 1026 North Beckley?
Mrs. ROBERTS. And then they just eased on--the way it is-it was the third house off of Zangs and they just went on around the corner that way.
Mr. BALL. Went around what corner?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Went around the corner off of Beckley on Zangs.
Mr. BALL. Going which way--toward town or away from town?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Toward town......

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...Mr. BALL. Has she been working for you for that period of time?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No, sir; I let Mrs. Roberts go a time or two, then I would hire her back.
Mr. BALL. there some reason why you let her go?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Well, she would just get to being disagreeable with renters and I don't know, she has a lot of handicaps. She has an overweight problem and she has some habits that some people have to understand to tolerate.
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Mr. BALL. What are they?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Talking just sitting down and making up tales, you know, have you ever seen people like that? Just have a creative mind, there's nothing to it, and just make up and keep talking until she just makes a lie out of it. Listen, I'm telling you the truth and this isn't to go any further, understand that? You have to know these things because you are going to question this lady. I will tell you, she's just as intelligent--I think she is a person that doesn't mean to do that but she just does it automatically. It seems as though that she, oh, I don't know, wants to be attractive or something at times. I just don't know; I don't understand it myself. I only wish I did.
Mr. BALL. She was working for you in October and November while Oswald was a renter with you?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, she was. This Saturday night will be 3 weeks she left.
Mr. BALL. She quit 3 weeks ago?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; I didn't know she was going.
Mr. BALL. Where did she go?
Mrs. JOHNSON. I do not know. I called her sister to try to find out. I don't think she knows.
Mr. BALL. Who is her sister?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Mrs. Bertha Cheek. ....

[Ted Shields]

Someone in authority obviously knew he was there - a police car honked while he was inside at 1pm on Nov 22nd 1963.

And the driver of that police car never came forward even though the WC were searching everywhere for the driver. Could it have been Tippit?

Yeah the person who just assassinated the president was collected by a marked police car whos "signal" was to pull up in broad daylight and honk the horn.

FFS.

[Walt Cakebread]

Bledsoe saw a hole in the elbow part of the brown shirt sleeve?
then Oswald must Have been wearing a jacket overtop the brown shirt and had the jacket sleeves rolled up above the elbow = absurd
Or he was carrying the jacket Folded over his arm or similar way just carrying it with him ?

Can anyone show some statement from Bledsoe to resolve this dilemma?

Otherwise Bledsoe saw some other Oswald or she has mistaken some other bus passenger for Oswald like McWatters the bus driver did.

Does anyone think that someone desiring to avoid FBI surveillance would choose an alias exactly his real name in reverse order?

Or carry a fake alias ID with him after shooting JFK with a rifle ordered by mail using that fake name?

Or ordered rifle by mail order writing the fake name in his own handwriting style?

Or having rifle sent to a P.O. Box addressed to his REAL name too?

Or Drops his fake ID inside a wallet at the scene where he just shot a police officer?

Removes shells one at a time from
His revolver while still at the scene and knowing he is being observed by witnesses?

Keeps the revolver used to shoot Tippit all the way to a theater and keeps weapon on his person even when it’s obvious police are about to enter the theater?

Supposedly had plan to have shootout    With police sometime after shooting Tippit , thus a reason to keep revolver, yet does not take Tippits revolver for added firepower?

Takes the bus transfer ticket from the pocket of shirt he changed from to the pocket Of the shirt he put on at the boarding room even though the ticket has expired at 1:00 pm?

a paper bus transfer ticket touched by McWatters bare fingers and also touched by Oswalds bare fingers upon receiving it and then touching it again to place in the pocket of his other shirt
Yet no fingerprints found on the ticket

Loose  shells in shirt pocket and ticket apparently able to not fall out and ticket not bent while struggling with police both inside and outside of theater

And said items not “discovered” in the shirt pocket until several hours later

Takes the bus transfer ticket from the pocket of shirt he changed from to the pocket Of the shirt he put on at the boarding room even though the ticket has expired at 1:00 pm?

You're backing into a very good point here , Zeon.    If Lee received a transfer when he debarked from the bus he probably would have had in the shirt pock of the shirt that he took off him his room at 1:00 O'clock.   And there would have been no reason to remove it and take it with him , since it was no longer valid. 
This would explain why the transfer is in pristine condition ..... If he had had the transfer in his pocket at the theater it surely would have gotten rumpled by the rough handling the police used in dragging Lee out of the theater.



a paper bus transfer ticket touched by McWatters bare fingers and also touched by Oswalds bare fingers upon receiving it and then touching it again to place in the pocket of his other shirt Yet no fingerprints found on the ticket

I'm not aware that the transfer was ever checked for finger prints.

Loose  shells in shirt pocket and ticket apparently able to not fall out and ticket not bent while struggling with police both inside and outside of theater

I believe that the live 38 cartridges were allegedly found in Lee's LEFT front trouser pocket.....  Which probably means they were placed there while Lee was being "searched" at the theater....  Lee wouldn't have put the shells in his LEFT pocket....  Because he was right handed, and it's very difficult to remove small object from the LEFT pocket if the person is right handed.    If Lee had wanted those shells in a pocket with easy access, he would have had them in the RIGHT pocket.
And said items not “discovered” in the shirt pocket until several hours later

[Walt Cakebread]

Someone in authority obviously knew he was there - a police car honked while he was inside at 1pm on Nov 22nd 1963.

And the driver of that police car never came forward even though the WC were searching everywhere for the driver. Could it have been Tippit?

Are you sure that a police car was in front of the rooming house and the driver honked while Lee was inside changing his clothes??   Weren't 95% of the police cars being used at the TSBD or other emergengies ??....

I doubt that the police car story is true.....

[Jerry Freeman]

 

Mr. STERN - Was he asked his residence address in Dallas and did he give it?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - Yes; he furnished the address of 1026 North Beckley.
Mr. STERN - Did he say that he was living there under another name, or was another name and particularly the name O. H. Lee mentioned at all in this connection?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - He was asked why he was using the name Lee at this address, and he attempted to pass it off by stating that the landlord was an old lady, and his first name was Lee and she just had gotten it in her head that he was Mr. Lee. He never did explain about the initials O. H.

Remember?.....

Mr. BALL.  How many tenants did you have in October last year?
    Mrs. JOHNSON. You know, I'm sorry I didn't bring my register. I couldn't tell you exactly; I imagine I had about 10 or 12.

She didn't know because I believe Mrs Roberts did all the renting anyway and there never was a "register".
It was just pay for the week and that was it. This was the register----

It looks like it was just the weeks that Oswald stayed there all filled out at once and somebody just wrote OH Lee on it ..5 letters that couldn't be all that hard to forge [and not a very good forgery at that] And just what in hell made this [COPY] of a scrap of paper all that Top Secret ?

RICK___BRIAN!!!! Take it please to another thread!

[Bill Chapman]

Of all things to make up--Why would Ms Roberts say that?

Have you had any experience with an elderly lady who is senile or has Alzhiemers?    In the early stages they will make up stuff and swear that it is true.

I suspect that Mrs Roberts made stuff up for no reason.    She may have imagined that she saw and heard a police car at the curb outside....

There in lies the problem.....  We just don't know that she saw a police car....  But I like your theory that it was Captain Westbrook.   Do you know where Westbrook was at 1:00 PM???

In the early stages they will make up stuff and swear that it is true.

Sounds like you