JD Tippit - Serious timing issues

[Walt Cakebread]

Markham is known to be unreliable at best

move on

Markham is known to be unreliable at best

Do you believe that Helen Markham was so unreliable she couldn't read a clock?   Do you think she could have kept her job at the cafe if she didn't arrive on time?....

She was on her way to catch the 1:12 bus because she had to be at work at 2:00 pm.....She left her apartment at 1:00 pm and saw JD Tippit shot to death at 1:06.....   

The liars have tried desperately to discredit her.... Why have you joined them Mr Hatmaker?....

[Martin Weidmann]

Markham is known to be unreliable at best

Do you believe that Helen Markham was so unreliable she couldn't read a clock?   Do you think she could have kept her job at the cafe if she didn't arrive on time?....

She was on her way to catch the 1:12 bus because she had to be at work at 2:00 pm.....She left her apartment at 1:00 pm and saw JD Tippit shot to death at 1:06.....   

The liars have tried desperately to discredit her.... Why have you joined them Mr Hatmaker?....

She left her apartment at 1:00 pm and saw JD Tippit shot to death at 1:06.....   

Actually, she testified that she left at "a little after 1".

To get to 10th/Patton is only a one block walk. She IMO would have arrived there at around 1:06.

In other words, if the shooting happened at 1:15 Markham would not have seen it as she would have been at the bus stop on Jefferson.

[Walt Cakebread]

Mr. BALL. You know what time you usually get your bus, don't you?
Mrs. MARKHAM. 1:15.
Mr. BALL. So it was before 1:15?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, it was.


It is entirely plausible that the 1:12 bus Markham usually took was late by three minutes.

It is completely implausible that the 1:22 bus usually arrived at the bus stop on Jefferson seven minutes too early.

Besides, even if Tippit was really killed at 1:15, Markham should have been at the bus stop and not one block away at 10th/Patton. This alone indicates that Tippit must have been shot several minutes prior to 1:15

Markham displayed her punctuality by catching a bus that took her to work at least a half hour before she was required to be at work...  Likewise she would have been at the bus stop several minutes prior to the scheduled arrival of the 1:12 bus. 

She confirmed this when she said the time was 1:06 when she saw JD Tippit shot to death.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Is that a question? I mean anyone no matter who you are. No more armchair walking. No more stopping the clock and resting [like that video]
There is no proof..none at all..that Oswald walked from his room to the Tippit shooting...get it?

There is no proof..none at all..that Oswald walked from his room to the Tippit shooting...get it?     BRAVO!!  Mr Freeman....

[Walt Cakebread]

She left her apartment at 1:00 pm and saw JD Tippit shot to death at 1:06.....   

Actually, she testified that she left at "a little after 1".

To get to 10th/Patton is only a one block walk. She IMO would have arrived there at around 1:06.

In other words, if the shooting happened at 1:15 Markham would not have seen it as she would have been at the bus stop on Jefferson.

   Right you are... Mr Weidmann

[Eddie Haymaker]

IMO LHO went no where near the JD crime scene

he had no time

He went directly to west Jefferson from his rooming house

where he is sighted by JB at around 1.15pm

He describes police reacting outside Hardy's at around 1.18pm

LHO knew a film started at 1.20 pm

therefore the time JD was shot really is irrelevant

LHO could not realistically have been there much sooner than 1.14pm anyway

He didnt leave his rooming house until 1.03pm

There are so many conflicting witnesses at the JD crime scene

I prefer to not get bogged down in it

We all know Mrs Markham changed her story more than once

perhaps we are cherry picking witnesses that suit our version of events?

How long do you think it took DB to use the police radio after the murder?

Hey Breadman do you have a link to your personal theory please?

[Jerry Freeman]

Markham is known to be unreliable at best....

That really isn't true. Researcher Dale Meyers did a thorough check on her and Helen Markham was a allegrophobic. That is a fancy name for a punctuality freak. Her friends and family were interviewed about that. In her interview by Mark Lane [which he recorded] she told him .... that she was at the police station and she identified Oswald as the person who had shot Officer Tippit in the lineup, including three other persons. She said no one pointed Oswald out to her, and she said she was just shown four people, and she picked Oswald. She said when he asked her how she could identify him, she said she was able to identify him because of his clothing, a gray jacket and dark trousers."

Mr. BALL. Well, the man that you identified as the number 2 man in the lineup in the police station, you identified him as the man you had seen shoot Officer Tippit?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, I did.

Oswald stood in the lineup all beaten black and blue and in a T shirt no jacket along with 3 cops in suits. Which guy was the obvious suspect? 
Eddie...your obviously new at this.... tread carefully with assumptions.

   

[Eddie Haymaker]

Like I've said over and over

There are so many conflicting witnesses at the JD crime scene

I prefer to not get bogged down in it

"your obviously new at this.... tread carefully with assumptions. "

An assumption of your own?

are you trying to be ironic?

IMO she is unreliable

She picked Oswald out because of police gesturing?

and in the same breath you say she is a reliable witness?