Gen. Walker and Supreme Court Decision

[Eddie Haymaker]

That answer would require it's own thread. In brief summation Oswald was a political zealot with had an overinflated opinion of his role in history.

An overinflated opinion of his role? He said he was just a patsy.
Why didn't he come out and proclaim himself the lone assassin?
Proudly proclaim his achievement and say why he did it
like most other successful infamous assassins

Yes he was a very politically minded person
all the more reason to suspect how a "political zealot" and a
president could be brought together by chance

IMO the walker evidence does not help convict LHO at all
It does point out huge inconsistencies in the WC's version of events

[Oscar Navarro]

An overinflated opinion of his role? He said he was just a patsy.
Why didn't he come out and proclaim himself the lone assassin?
Proudly proclaim his achievement and say why he did it
like most other successful infamous assassins

Yes he was a very politically minded person
all the more reason to suspect how a "political zealot" and a
president could be brought together by chance

IMO the walker evidence does not help convict LHO at all
It does point out huge inconsistencies in the WC's version of events

 It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive or that he would be apprehended after shooting JFK. In his mind, since he didn't expect to be shot and killed after he was arrested at the TT it was during the trial that his stature as a political figure of the left would be cemented. I think that's why he was adamant that Abt would represent him.

IMO the walker evidence does not help convict LHO at all
It does point out huge inconsistencies in the WC's version of events

Eddie, photos of the Walker residence dated to weeks before the actual shooting were found in either the Paine's or in the Beckley rooming house. Those photos (or a photo) was traced to his IRC to the exclusion of any other camera. If the case had gone to trial it's possible that the DeMohrenchilds would have been subpoeaned and their encounter with St. Oswald the Patsy about the Walker shooting could have had some value in connecting Oswald to the shooting. Without Marina's testimony though it would have been tough to convict Oswald for the Walker shooting. That I will admit. But for historical purposes where the evidence does not have to pass the rigors of the evidentiary procedures of a trial it's clear that Oswald attempted to murder Walker, IMHO. Where are does inconsistencies in the WR?

[Eddie Haymaker]

It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive or that he would be apprehended after shooting JFK. In his mind, since he didn't expect to be shot and killed after he was arrested at the TT it was during the trial that his stature as a political figure of the left would be cemented. I think that's why he was adamant that Abt would represent him.

IMO the walker evidence does not help convict LHO at all
It does point out huge inconsistencies in the WC's version of events

Eddie, photos of the Walker residence dated to weeks before the actual shooting were found in either the Paine's or in the Beckley rooming house. Those photos (or a photo) was traced to his IRC to the exclusion of any other camera. If the case had gone to trial it's possible that the DeMohrenchilds would have been subpoeaned and their encounter with St. Oswald the Patsy about the Walker shooting could have had some value in connecting Oswald to the shooting. Without Marina's testimony though it would have been tough to convict Oswald for the Walker shooting. That I will admit. But for historical purposes where the evidence does not have to pass the rigors of the evidentiary procedures of a trial it's clear that Oswald attempted to murder Walker, IMHO. Where are does inconsistencies in the WR?

where do I even begin?

1-target selection.as I have said why target a hard right walker
then a left leaning president? This make no sense

2-He couldn't hit walker at 25 feet,a stationary target
then he pulls off one of the most amazing sniper jobs in history
(If he did it the most incredible hands down)
a thoroughly planned murder vs a murder that fell into his lap
A different MO you see.

3-He has pictures? all the walker evidence is retroactive and IF he was
a patsy as he said doesn't this reek of a frame up?How dumb is LHO
to have incriminating pictures and his confession lying around
someone else's home? LHO was an intellectual type personality

4-de Mohrenschildt and his wife know about the rifle.(it was no secret)
they had a copy of the infamous rifle picture in their possession.
They fail to tell RP who they introduced to LHO that he had a rifle
and was potentially unstable.RP has the FBI come to her home but
still has zero suspicion of LHO.(who she says she never liked)
The rifle is not hidden well wrapped in a blanket.No ammo was found.

5-Marina was totally intimidated by the DPD which they are very good at
(they convince innocent people to say they are cop killers) So are very
persuasive.They wheeled her out in front of the camera's to say her
husband was guilty before any investigation was finished.

6-but the most obvious reason this shines a light on the entire affair
is the LHO placement at the TSBD.I know you have heard this before
but no LN'er has given more thought to this than a shrug of the shoulders
and a yeah,he got lucky.
NO HE DIDN'T.
An aspiring assassin gets this job in the perfect place by accident
less than 5 weeks before the presidents arrival that nobody knows about?

He planned the walker murder by taking pictures and casing the area?
THEN he innocently gets the TSBD job?
THEN he does the most amazing shooting job in the history of the rifle
THEN he avoids a massive police dragnet on East 10th
THEN he is killed by ANOTHER lone nut in police custody

There are so many hard to swallow circumstances surrounding this case
that when you put them together
It becomes simply indigestible

for more on this please read this thread
An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?

As it turned out there is more evidence to convict LHO of the walker
crime than the actual assassination (fake evidence all the same)

you can;'t really speculate what would have happened at trial can you?
He was murdered in the care of the DPD an unconvinced innocent man.
So we will never know what would have happened and the reason
for it is the incompetence (at best) of the DPD who is ironically stoically
defended by people on this site.
they were even asked about security for LHO and JC said "we are taking precautions" WHAT PRECAUTIONS?

Who got fired? nobody

[Walt Cakebread]

It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive or that he would be apprehended after shooting JFK. In his mind, since he didn't expect to be shot and killed after he was arrested at the TT it was during the trial that his stature as a political figure of the left would be cemented. I think that's why he was adamant that Abt would represent him.

IMO the walker evidence does not help convict LHO at all
It does point out huge inconsistencies in the WC's version of events

Eddie, photos of the Walker residence dated to weeks before the actual shooting were found in either the Paine's or in the Beckley rooming house. Those photos (or a photo) was traced to his IRC to the exclusion of any other camera. If the case had gone to trial it's possible that the DeMohrenchilds would have been subpoeaned and their encounter with St. Oswald the Patsy about the Walker shooting could have had some value in connecting Oswald to the shooting. Without Marina's testimony though it would have been tough to convict Oswald for the Walker shooting. That I will admit. But for historical purposes where the evidence does not have to pass the rigors of the evidentiary procedures of a trial it's clear that Oswald attempted to murder Walker, IMHO. Where are does inconsistencies in the WR?

It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive or that he would be apprehended after shooting JFK.

 "It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive"

But you've said that Lee Oswald murdered JFK so that the name Lee Harvey Oswald would be known all over the globe....You said that he was seeking fame....  But he expected to be killed...And yet he left not a single word or note that he had shot anybody....Nor did he proclaim to the world that he had shot JFK when he was paraded out in front of a mob at midnight...   On the contrary....He steadfastly denied that he had shot anybody. 

"that he would be apprehended "

Psssst...  Oscar,  Lee Oswald was apprehended .....

So on one hand you say He thought he would be killed.... But on the other hand you say he thought he would be apprehended....

Either way...He would have proclaimed his deed, to the world, if he had been the assassin who was seeking fame....

Can you understand how silly your theory is?......

[Oscar Navarro]

It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive or that he would be apprehended after shooting JFK.

 "It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive"

But you've said that Lee Oswald murdered JFK so that the name Lee Harvey Oswald would be known all over the globe....You said that he was seeking fame....  But he expected to be killed...And yet he left not a single word or note that he had shot anybody....Nor did he proclaim to the world that he had shot JFK when he was paraded out in front of a mob at midnight...   On the contrary....He steadfastly denied that he had shot anybody. 

"that he would be apprehended "

Psssst...  Oscar,  Lee Oswald was apprehended .....

So on one hand you say He thought he would be killed.... But on the other hand you say he thought he would be apprehended....

Either way...He would have proclaimed his deed, to the world, if he had been the assassin who was seeking fame....

Can you understand how silly your theory is?......

But you've said that Lee Oswald murdered JFK so that the name Lee Harvey Oswald would be known all over the globe....You said that he was seeking fame....  But he expected to be killed...And yet he left not a single word or note that he had shot anybody....Nor did he proclaim to the world that he had shot JFK when he was paraded out in front of a mob at midnight...   On the contrary....He steadfastly denied that he had shot anybody

Why in the world would LHO need to leave a note to announce to the world that he had shot JFK when the deed alone would grant him the notoriety he seeked? Isn't that what occurred? Oswald's denials are meaningless considering that what he wanted was the public notoriety now that he found himself in the lucky position of still being alive after shooting a cop and the POTUS. In case it has escaped you Oswald was loaded for bear after leaving the rooming house. He left the rooming house with a loaded revolver and at least nine more bullets in his pocket. He was prepared to fight it out and demonstrated it at the TT. There Oswald claimed police brutality after he attempted to shoot a cop while being apprehended. Do Oswald's shrieks and pleas appear to have a legitimate basis for grievance or isn't it more likely that his cries were for public consumption only?

Psssst...  Oscar,  Lee Oswald was apprehended .....

So on one hand you say He thought he would be killed.... But on the other hand you say he thought he would be apprehended....

Either way...He would have proclaimed his deed, to the world, if he had been the assassin who was seeking fame....

Can you understand how silly your theory is?

Killed or aprehendeed. You can't even follow what you highlight.  BTW, my theory is based on verifiable facts unlike yours, which are baseless assertions. 

[Walt Cakebread]

But you've said that Lee Oswald murdered JFK so that the name Lee Harvey Oswald would be known all over the globe....You said that he was seeking fame....  But he expected to be killed...And yet he left not a single word or note that he had shot anybody....Nor did he proclaim to the world that he had shot JFK when he was paraded out in front of a mob at midnight...   On the contrary....He steadfastly denied that he had shot anybody

Why in the world would LHO need to leave a note to announce to the world that he had shot JFK when the deed alone would grant him the notoriety he seeked? Isn't that what occurred? Oswald's denials are meaningless considering that what he wanted was the public notoriety now that he found himself in the lucky position of still being alive after shooting a cop and the POTUS. In case it has escaped you Oswald was loaded for bear after leaving the rooming house. He left the rooming house with a loaded revolver and at least nine more bullets in his pocket. He was prepared to fight it out and demonstrated it at the TT. There Oswald claimed police brutality after he attempted to shoot a cop while being apprehended. Do Oswald's shrieks and pleas appear to have a legitimate basis for grievance or isn't it more likely that his cries were for public consumption only?

Psssst...  Oscar,  Lee Oswald was apprehended .....

So on one hand you say He thought he would be killed.... But on the other hand you say he thought he would be apprehended....

Either way...He would have proclaimed his deed, to the world, if he had been the assassin who was seeking fame....

Can you understand how silly your theory is?

Killed or aprehendeed. You can't even follow what you highlight.  BTW, my theory is based on verifiable facts unlike yours, which are baseless assertions.

 BTW, my theory is based on verifiable facts unlike yours, which are baseless assertions. 

Ok ...Let's take a look at the FACTS...

It is a FACT that the witnesses at the Tippit murder scene swore that the killer was wearing a WHITE shirt beneath a Jacket...
When Lee was dragged from the theater he had no jacket, and he was NOT wearing a WHITE shirt.....

It is a FACT,  that the FBI said that the tuft of fibers they found on the butt plate of the rifle matched the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested.   Since Lee had changed his shirts about 45 minutes before he was arrested there is only one way a tuft of clean fresh fibers from the arrest shirt could have been deposited on the butt of the rifle ...The shirt was rubbed against the butt of the rifle after both the shirt and the rifle were in the hands of the police.

It is a FACT that Detective Studebaker measured the distance from the N. wall to the exact spot where the rifle was discovered....ON THE FLOOR... That distance was 15 feet 4 inches....and about 5 feet from the aisle that LBJ's cover up committee theorized that the 5 foot 9 inch tall,  arch villain, commie, back shooting murderer, Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald ( Boooo Hissss) dashed through  when he reached across the 5 foot span with the 8 pound rifle and carefully hid it beneath a pallet and then stacked boxes of books around and over it....

Do you want me to list more FACTS?

[Walt Cakebread]

It is my opinion that he didn't expect to get out alive or that he would be apprehended after shooting JFK. In his mind, since he didn't expect to be shot and killed after he was arrested at the TT it was during the trial that his stature as a political figure of the left would be cemented. I think that's why he was adamant that Abt would represent him.

IMO the walker evidence does not help convict LHO at all
It does point out huge inconsistencies in the WC's version of events

Eddie, photos of the Walker residence dated to weeks before the actual shooting were found in either the Paine's or in the Beckley rooming house. Those photos (or a photo) was traced to his IRC to the exclusion of any other camera. If the case had gone to trial it's possible that the DeMohrenchilds would have been subpoeaned and their encounter with St. Oswald the Patsy about the Walker shooting could have had some value in connecting Oswald to the shooting. Without Marina's testimony though it would have been tough to convict Oswald for the Walker shooting. That I will admit. But for historical purposes where the evidence does not have to pass the rigors of the evidentiary procedures of a trial it's clear that Oswald attempted to murder Walker, IMHO. Where are does inconsistencies in the WR?

Mr Narvarroo...No matter how humble your opinion might be....  It's true value and a buck will get you a cup of coffee at Mc D's

it's clear that Oswald attempted to murder Walker, IMHO.

Really??.... You can know the intent of the shooter simply by examining the physical evidence?...Really?? 

How do you know for a FACT that Walker was even in the room at the time the bullet was fired through the window?....How do you know that Walker himself didn't fire the bullet and then pretend that someone had shot at him?

 

[Walt Cakebread]

But you've said that Lee Oswald murdered JFK so that the name Lee Harvey Oswald would be known all over the globe....You said that he was seeking fame....  But he expected to be killed...And yet he left not a single word or note that he had shot anybody....Nor did he proclaim to the world that he had shot JFK when he was paraded out in front of a mob at midnight...   On the contrary....He steadfastly denied that he had shot anybody

Why in the world would LHO need to leave a note to announce to the world that he had shot JFK when the deed alone would grant him the notoriety he seeked? Isn't that what occurred? Oswald's denials are meaningless considering that what he wanted was the public notoriety now that he found himself in the lucky position of still being alive after shooting a cop and the POTUS. In case it has escaped you Oswald was loaded for bear after leaving the rooming house. He left the rooming house with a loaded revolver and at least nine more bullets in his pocket. He was prepared to fight it out and demonstrated it at the TT. There Oswald claimed police brutality after he attempted to shoot a cop while being apprehended. Do Oswald's shrieks and pleas appear to have a legitimate basis for grievance or isn't it more likely that his cries were for public consumption only?

Psssst...  Oscar,  Lee Oswald was apprehended .....

So on one hand you say He thought he would be killed.... But on the other hand you say he thought he would be apprehended....

Either way...He would have proclaimed his deed, to the world, if he had been the assassin who was seeking fame....

Can you understand how silly your theory is?

Killed or aprehendeed. You can't even follow what you highlight.  BTW, my theory is based on verifiable facts unlike yours, which are baseless assertions.

In case it has escaped you Oswald was loaded for bear after leaving the rooming house. He left the rooming house with a loaded revolver and at least nine more bullets in his pocket.

Would I be asking too much If I asked you to PROVE that Lee had the revolver and the ammo when he left the rooming house?

There doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence that he has any ammo in his pockets at the theater.....Because that ammo wasn't even mentioned until over two hours after he was brought in from the Texas Theater....  I'd say somethings a bit fishy about that ammo because he was searched after he was dragged from the theater and no bullets were found on his person....And even the cop who said that "someone" handed him "Oswald's revolver" in the theater didn't know for a fact that Lee had had that revolver on his person....

So the revolver and bullets appeared much later ...  How do you KNOW that Lee carried them from the rooming house?