Lack Of Damage To CE-399

[Rob Caprio]

People, FMJ ammo is designed to remain as intact as possible

Except for when it doesn't, right? Explain the head shot then.

[Jack Trojan]

I have in my possession a 6.5mm carcano bullet that I fired into a water trap.... It looks nearly identical to CE 399...  My bullet is of Italian manufacture so the jacket is white colored metal....

Walt you are in a unique position to answer your own questions. Repeat your experiment but weigh the FMJ bullet before and after to see how much material gets lost in the barrel. I'll bet it will match CE-399 perfectly. It would also explain why there was no DNA on the bullet.

Don't forget to weigh the FMJ bullet (slug & hull) before firing it into the water trap, then subtract the weight of the spent hull from the total to determine the weight of the slug before firing. Then subtract the weight of the fired slug to determine how much mass is missing. Then post your results. Not that any LNers will believe you, but don't let that stop you. The rest of us would like to know.

Good luck!

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt you are in a unique position to answer your own questions. Repeat your experiment but weigh the FMJ bullet before and after to see how much material gets lost in the barrel. I'll bet it will match CE-399 perfectly. It would also explain why there was no DNA on the bullet.

Don't forget to weigh the FMJ bullet (slug & hull) before firing it into the water trap, then subtract the weight of the spent hull from the total to determine the weight of the slug before firing. Then subtract the weight of the fired slug to determine how much mass is missing. Then post your results. Not that any LNers will believe you, but don't let that stop you. The rest of us would like to know.

Good luck!

Jack, I cannot duplicate the exact conditions under which CE 399 was created....My rifle probably has a barrel that is significantly different than C2766....It may be worn more  ( or less) than C2766....My barrel may be rougher or smoother than C2766....and I don't have any Western Cartridge company ammo....

I would be glad to perform the exercise if I could duplicate the exact conditions .....  However ....I'm convinced that CE 399 was fired into a bullet trap and recovered. It sure as hell was NOT fired into an adult man's wrist.....

[Bill Chapman]

And yet, LNers want you to believe that a FMJ bullet totally disintegrated upon hitting JFK's skull. Sure.

CE399 did not strike hard bone nose-first
It glanced off rib bone at speed thus producing the somewhat flattened end

@Newbies
FMJ ammo is designed to resist damage while passing through flesh. See where RoboCall leaves that flesh designation out. Watch out for him and practically every other CTer. They twist everything; either from stupidity or just plain disingenuousness.

In fact, it's hilarious how these dimwits keep obsessing over how such a 'pristine' bullet could have caused so many wounds, when in reality it was designed to remain as intact as possible in the first place.

Duh.

[Royell Storing]

CE399 did not strike hard bone nose-first
It glanced off rib bone at speed thus producing the somewhat flattened end

@Newbies
FMJ ammo is designed to resist damage while passing through flesh. See where RoboCall leaves the flesh designation out. What out for him and practically every other CTer. They twist everything; either from stupidity or just plain disingenuousness.

In fact, it's hilarious how these dimwits keep obsessing over how pristine the bullet might be; when in reality it was designed to remain as intact as possible in the first place. Duh.

                 And what happened when CE399 Struck/Broke the Radius BONE?

[Bill Chapman]

And yet, LNers want you to believe that a FMJ bullet totally disintegrated upon hitting JFK's skull. Sure.

If memory serves, the bullet shattered and the resultant trapped energy build-up did the explodin', Tex..

[Bill Chapman]

                 And what happened when CE399 Struck/Broke the Radius BONE?

Another easy one. CE399 was travelling at a much lower rate-of-speed as compared to the head shot bullet velocity... thus retaining its front-end structural integrity.

Governor Connally's Wrist Wound
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/zimmerman/frontmenu_000024.htm
 
"Governor Connally was seated in front and to the left of President Kennedy. His exact position is not known, as photographs are not pinpoint accurate with regards to his position, compounded with the fact that nobody knows exactly when he was hit. Nevertheless, he was in a position such that a bullet exiting his chest at a downward, right to left trajectory could hit his right wrist. Governor Connally sat in the presidential limousine with his hands across his lap, save for one detail. He was holding onto his gray Stetson cowboy hat with his right hand. Whether his right wrist was lying on his leg or whether it was across his left arm is not known for sure. It is also not know if his arm was resting or in the air. Regardless, he received an entrance wound to the dorsal, or towards the rear (backside), of his forearm, about 2 inches from the wrist on the thumb side. This bullet shattered the smaller bone of the forearm- the radius.

[Bill Chapman]

That claim won't hold water.
 

That's not a claim, Dumbo. It's sarcasm.
And it's Waldo's unsupported claims that don't 'hold water'