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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #704 on: April 15, 2019, 07:21:27 PM »
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Yep. The experts said the Titanic was unsinkable, and in the fifties, they said that smoking was good for you.
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #704 on: April 15, 2019, 07:21:27 PM »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #705 on: April 15, 2019, 08:09:02 PM »
Quote from: Ray Mitcham on April 15, 2019, 07:21:27 PM
Yep. The experts said the Titanic was unsinkable, and in the fifties, they said that smoking was good for you.

Ah, the dreaded 'they'
The boogeymen of the paranoia-afflicted everywhere.

What 'experts' are you referring to? The real experts would be those who designed and built the ship, and if you read the news of the day 'practically unsinkable' was a term often used. Show us where the Titanic was actually advertised as being 'unsinkable'

Concerns about health re smoking started in the thirties and in retaliation, tobacco companies enlisted doctors as spokesmen. Big full-colour ads filled magazines with glowing endorsements from the 'men in white'.
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #706 on: April 15, 2019, 08:21:18 PM »
Quote from: Bill Chapman on April 15, 2019, 08:09:02 PM
What 'experts' are you referring to? The real experts would be those who designed and built the ship, and if you read the news of the day 'practically unsinkable' was a term often used. Show us where the Titanic was actually advertised as being 'unsinkable'

" White Star Line Vice President P.A.S. Franklin announced ? We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable.?

I note you said nothing about smoking causing cancer.
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #706 on: April 15, 2019, 08:21:18 PM »

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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #707 on: April 15, 2019, 08:33:41 PM »
Quote from: Ray Mitcham on April 15, 2019, 08:21:18 PM
" White Star Line Vice President P.A.S. Franklin announced ? We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable.?

I note you said nothing about smoking causing cancer.

Franklin 'announced' that
I asked for actual advertising.
There might be a legal thing involved

He was trying to fill the cabins
He was hardly going to say 'this thing might sink'
Call it 'snakeoilmanship'

You didn't ask about cancer re cigarettes
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #708 on: April 15, 2019, 08:45:45 PM »
Quote from: Bill Chapman on April 15, 2019, 08:09:02 PM

What 'experts' are you referring to? The real experts would be those who designed and built the ship, and if you read the news of the day 'practically unsinkable' was a term often used. Show us where the Titanic was actually advertised as being 'unsinkable'



Quote from: Ray Mitcham on April 15, 2019, 08:21:18 PM

" White Star Line Vice President P.A.S. Franklin announced ? We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable.?



Quote from: Bill Chapman on April 15, 2019, 08:33:41 PM
Franklin 'announced' that
I asked for actual advertising.
There might be a legal thing involved

He was trying to fill the cabins
He was hardly going to say 'this thing might sink'
Call it 'snakeoilmanship'


Watch the weasel  :'(

The "logic" is mindblowing. A public statement from the White Star Line Vice President, who was "trying to fill the cabins", somehow doesn't qualify as advertising..... Go figure!
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #708 on: April 15, 2019, 08:45:45 PM »

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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #709 on: April 15, 2019, 09:05:01 PM »
Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 15, 2019, 08:45:45 PM

Watch the weasel  :'(

Show us advertising of the day where the Titanic was claimed to be 'unsinkable'
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #710 on: April 15, 2019, 09:06:52 PM »
Quote from: Bill Chapman on April 15, 2019, 09:05:01 PM
Show us advertising of the day where the Titanic was claimed to be 'unsinkable'

Why? They were only trying to fill cabins, right?
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Re: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963
« Reply #711 on: April 15, 2019, 09:18:38 PM »
Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 15, 2019, 09:06:52 PM
Why? They were only trying to fill cabins, right?

Scroll back and tell us what the original point is.
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