BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

[Colin Crow]

Yeah, when I was trying to line up the two images I noticed the bottom Day signature seems to be slightly off.



JohnM

Would suggest that that ?Day" was added to both documents separately too. After the information regarding the prints.

[Zeon Mason]

Either there was some SEVERE distortion caused by 1963 copy machines, or there was some SEVERE altered copies being made leaving absent a signature from the original, changing last date from 24 on the original to 26 of March on the copy, and the other mismatches in pen stroke length, and spacing between.

And on top of that, the date of Mar 15th for the request of rods to be tested that have not yet been removed from Mrs Paine garage until March 23rd.

Why did they even bother making such an fd up document anyway?

[Walt Cakebread]

As my example shows the copy of CE2637 we have is not of sufficient quality to see the required details but the original shows what appears to be a good copy of a human print.
I see no reason to doubt the findings knowing that an original most probably exists, the rifle still exists and we now have a high def copy of Days original day 1 Oswald palm print for comparison. I believe it's a little naive to suggest that The FBI would leave themselves open to such easily discovered deception.



JohnM

Notice the two parallel lines at the right side of the lift?.... Those lines are the edges of the bayonet slot that is cut into the WOODEN foregrip of the model 91/38 Mannlicher Caracano.    That bayonet slot is solid proof that this lift was taken from the WOODEN fore grip of the carcano...It was NOT lifted from the 5/8" diameter metal barrel as Lt. Day claimed ..... 

[Alan Ford]

Notice the two parallel lines at the right side of the lift?.... Those lines are the edges of the bayonet slot that is cut into the WOODEN foregrip of the model 91/38 Mannlicher Caracano.    That bayonet slot is solid proof that this lift was taken from the WOODEN fore grip of the carcano...It was NOT lifted from the 5/8" diameter metal barrel as Lt. Day claimed .....

Off-topic! Please, Mr Cakebread... we're trying to discuss curtain rods here, and there is nothing Mr Mytton & Friends would like more than to see the discussion diverted elsewhere.

[Alan Ford]

Either there was some SEVERE distortion caused by 1963 copy machines, or there was some SEVERE altered copies being made leaving absent a signature from the original, changing last date from 24 on the original to 26 of March on the copy, and the other mismatches in pen stroke length, and spacing between.

And on top of that, the date of Mar 15th for the request of rods to be tested that have not yet been removed from Mrs Paine garage until March 23rd.

Why did they even bother making such an fd up document anyway?

Absent some simple technical explanation related to the copying process (wrinkling of paper?), we have here something very interesting:



As we flick from one version to the other,
-------------------the 'Day' at the bottom does not move
-------------------the '1 legible print - does not belong to Oswald' does move.

This may be telling us how the fix was put in.

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards. When he had finished, he handed the rifle to Captain Fritz.

http://www.jfk-online.com/alyea.html

the alleged  "lift" of a palm print on the barrel, WAS NOT filmed by Tom Alyea, since the rifle was NOT disassembled in that film segment of Tom Alyea recording Lt.Day doing some dusting of a FULLY ASSEMBLED rifle.

Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards. when he had finished, he handed the rifle to Captain Fritz.

Thank you for posting Alyea's statement Zeon.....   But why do you deny that Alyea filmed Day lifting prints with scotch tape and placing the lifts on "little white cards" ?

the alleged  "lift" of a palm print on the barrel, WAS NOT filmed by Tom Alyea, since the rifle was NOT disassembled in that film segment of Tom Alyea recording Lt.Day doing some dusting of a FULLY ASSEMBLED rifle.

Zeon, the lift of the smudge that the mendacious Day said was taken from the metal barrel...Was actually one of the lifts that Day took from the WOODEN parts of the carcano as Alyea watched.   The CE exhibit ( CE 637) itself is PROOF that the lift was taken off the Wooden foregrip of a model 91/38 Manlicher Carcano.
The two parallel lines are the edges of the bayonet slot that is cut into the wooden fore grip of the model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano  to allow the blade to be folded back and out of the way when it wasn't being used.

You simply must refrain from believing the mendacious authorities.....

[Alan Ford]

Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards. when he had finished, he handed the rifle to Captain Fritz.

Thank you for posting Alyea's statement Zeon.....   But why do you deny that Alyea filmed Day lifting prints with scotch tape and placing the lifts on "little white cards" ?

the alleged  "lift" of a palm print on the barrel, WAS NOT filmed by Tom Alyea, since the rifle was NOT disassembled in that film segment of Tom Alyea recording Lt.Day doing some dusting of a FULLY ASSEMBLED rifle.

Zeon, the lift of the smudge that the mendacious Day said was taken from the metal barrel...Was actually one of the lifts that Day took from the WOODEN parts of the carcano as Alyea watched.   The CE exhibit ( CE 637) itself is PROOF that the lift was taken off the Wooden foregrip of a model 91/38 Manlicher Carcano.
The two parallel lines are the edges of the bayonet slot that is cut into the wooden fore grip of the model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano  to allow the blade to be folded back and out of the way when it wasn't being used.

You simply must refrain from believing the mendacious authorities.....

Stay classy, Mr Cakebread... 

[Colin Crow]

Was the clipboard, discovered by (and manufactured by) Frankie Kaiser on the sixth floor about a week after the assassination, ever fingerprinted to determine handling by the misappropriating, commie, recently deceased accused assassin?