Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald

[Walt Cakebread]

A crop from DP #12 is shown in the upper-right of the graphic above (DP #12 shows the "Stair Way" sign on the brick column). I think the south end of the brick column is getting about the 15 foot mark.

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark. Another four inches or so and there's the rifle.

The nearest pallet southward from the stairway (Pallet 1) is 18 or 19 feet from the north wall.

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark.

No, the wooden posts ( pillars) were not centered on the 13 foot mark the south side of those post were on the thirteen foot mark.... and the row of boxes were stacked in line with the south side of the post....the boxes were about 16 inches  X 12 inches....( see the box at the base of the brick column which is two and a half bricks across and use the bricks as a scale.)  so 13 feet plus 1 foot 4 inches puts the south edge of the boxes at 14 foot 4 inches. this is where the DPD placed the rifle to stage the phony in situ photo.......then there is a box which is 12 inches across and then the pallet on the floor....THAT is where the rifle was laying on the floor when Boone discovered it.... 

[John Iacoletti]

Apparently the conspiracy allegation is that "they" framed him for the assassination because they wanted to blame Castro to justify an invasion.

Who gets to decide what THE conspiracy allegation is?

But then "they" also conducted a fake investigation - the Warren Commission - that cleared Castro of any involvement. Yes, the same people who framed him in order to remove Castro also said Castro was innocent of any involvement.
That makes no sense but in conspiracy world it doesn't have to make sense; it just has to feed a conspiracy belief.

It makes no sense because nobody holds both of these views simultaneously.

[Jerry Organ]

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark.

No, the wooden posts ( pillars) were not centered on the 13 foot mark the south side of those post were on the thirteen foot mark....

Rightly-or-wrongly, the map (which is the only thing I have to go by) shows the majority of the wooden posts (that go east-to-west from the rifle location) centered on the 13-foot mark from the north wall. Maybe someone at the museum could go measure it.



The arrowed boxes above are not where the rifle was located, but they appear to be a bit south of the box by the wooden post. The tall stack (it has the label "Looking West" on it in the graphic above) was to the east of the rifle location and it seems to be further south of the box by the wooden post and maybe the arrowed boxes in between.

Where the rifle lay on the floor appears to be in the 15 to 15 1/2 foot range.

and the row of boxes were stacked in line with the south side of the post....

Sort of. But the row of boxes veered towards the southwest. The box that is beside the wooden post is not even in line with the south side of the post. There's a gap.

the boxes were about 16 inches  X 12 inches....( see the box at the base of the brick column which is two and a half bricks across and use the bricks as a scale.)  so 13 feet plus 1 foot 4 inches puts the south edge of the boxes at 14 foot 4 inches. this is where the DPD placed the rifle to stage the phony in situ photo.......then there is a box which is 12 inches across and then the pallet on the floor....THAT is where the rifle was laying on the floor when Boone discovered it....

There a box (which I labelled "E") that's as long as those in the tall stack. It seem to be short in DP #12 because of perspective.

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

[Walt Cakebread]

Rightly-or-wrongly, the map (which is the only thing I have to go by) shows the majority of the wooden posts (that go east-to-west from the rifle location) centered on the 13-foot mark from the north wall. Maybe someone at the museum could go measure it.



The arrowed boxes above are not where the rifle was located, but they appear to be a bit south of the box by the wooden post. The tall stack (it has the label "Looking West" on it in the graphic above) was to the east of the rifle location and it seems to be further south of the box by the wooden post and maybe the arrowed boxes in between.

Where the rifle lay on the floor appears to be in the 15 to 15 1/2 foot range.

Sort of. But the row of boxes veered towards the southwest. The box that is beside the wooden post is not even in line with the south side of the post. There's a gap.

There a box (which I labelled "E") that's as long as those in the tall stack. It seem to be short in DP #12 because of perspective.

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

No.... Seymour Weitzman said that the rifle was beneath the pallet.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Rightly-or-wrongly, the map (which is the only thing I have to go by) shows the majority of the wooden posts (that go east-to-west from the rifle location) centered on the 13-foot mark from the north wall. Maybe someone at the museum could go measure it.



The arrowed boxes above are not where the rifle was located, but they appear to be a bit south of the box by the wooden post. The tall stack (it has the label "Looking West" on it in the graphic above) was to the east of the rifle location and it seems to be further south of the box by the wooden post and maybe the arrowed boxes in between.

Where the rifle lay on the floor appears to be in the 15 to 15 1/2 foot range.

Sort of. But the row of boxes veered towards the southwest. The box that is beside the wooden post is not even in line with the south side of the post. There's a gap.

There a box (which I labelled "E") that's as long as those in the tall stack. It seem to be short in DP #12 because of perspective.

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

Jeryy Look at the map.... The south side of the wooden pillar was 13 feet from the north wall. The pillars are 6"X6" .   And that dimension provides a scale for the box that is abutted to the south side of the pillar.....  The south side of that box was NOT 14 feet 10 inches from the north wall....it was about 14 feet from the north  wall
or about 1 foot 4 inches north of the spot where Boone and Weitzman discovered the rifle ON THE FLOOR beneath the wooden pallet.       

[Jerry Organ]

Jeryy Look at the map.... The south side of the wooden pillar was 13 feet from the north wall.

I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

The pillars are 6"X6" .   

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

And that dimension provides a scale for the box that is abutted to the south side of the pillar.....  The south side of that box was NOT 14 feet 10 inches from the north wall....it was about 14 feet from the north  wall or about 1 foot 4 inches north of the spot where Boone and Weitzman discovered the rifle ON THE FLOOR beneath the wooden pallet.     

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

[Alan Ford]

Apparently the conspiracy allegation is that "they" framed him for the assassination because they wanted to blame Castro to justify an invasion. But then "they" also conducted a fake investigation - the Warren Commission - that cleared Castro of any involvement. Yes, the same people who framed him in order to remove Castro also said Castro was innocent of any involvement.

That makes no sense but in conspiracy world it doesn't have to make sense; it just has to feed a conspiracy belief.

Whose conspiracy allegation, precisely? And which conspiracy world?

Your conspiracy-allegation allegation is hopelessly vague, Mr Galbraith. Could it be that you're only comfortable belaboring a strawman? 

[Walt Cakebread]

I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

Thank you for pointing out that the pillars are 9.5 square.....  That's non dimensional, by today's standards but  maybe at the tim the TSBD was built they had different standards.

So that makes the box that is abutted to that post 19" long..... I thought that it was 16 inches......So we have the place between the pillar and the box at pillar at 13 feet ( south side of the pillar ) ..... That would mean the south side of that box is at 14 feet 7 inches......But Studebaker measured the distance from the wall to the rifle as 15 feet 4 inches...  That's a rather precise measurement ......and Boone said the rifle was about 8 feet south of the stairway partition.   

It's starting to appear that the DPD photo ( DP #12 is not authentic)