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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Mysterious Cuban # 1: Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2019, 11:08:57 PM »
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Re: Mysterious Cuban # 1: Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2019, 11:41:19 PM »
I emailed Tom

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Re: Mysterious Cuban # 1: Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2019, 12:59:59 AM »
Got 'em!

Great photos.

(Please e-mail me more, if you can.)

It'll be interesting to see if he can be spotted in Dealey Plaza.

Imho, he looks sufficiently similar to Oswald as to have been plausibly mistaken for Oswald by Sheriff's Detective Roger Craig ...

Could he whistle loudly, by any chance?

Not every macho guy can, you know. For example I couldn't, even when I still had teeth. LOL

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Re: Mysterious Cuban # 1: Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2019, 01:28:18 AM »
Not only he whistles loud but he used to call as by whistling. It meant it was time to stop playing and go home.

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Re: Mysterious Cuban # 1: Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2019, 01:48:00 AM »
Starting from near the top of page 203 in Mark Riebling's 1994 book, Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA

To make it easier for you to find in the online version (link, below), it's several pages into Chapter Ten, Sinister Implications)
https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/page/n381


The FBI similarly failed to follow up on information received by CIA headquarters from its Mexico City Station on December 3, 1963, about the suspicious activities of Gilberto [Policarpo] Lopez, a Cuban-American who left the U.S. for Cuba the day after the assassination. His itinerary was confirmed by several sources, including one who reported hearing, according to a March 20, 1964 memo to the director of CIA from Mexico Station, "that Gilberto Lopez, U.S. citizen, was involved in President Kennedy's assassination." The Lopez case was passed to the FBI, but, as a later CIA memo tersely reported, "FBI furnished no further info on subject." Grilled years later by a Senate committee, the FBI agents handling the Oswald investigation could not account for their failure to follow up on the Lopez lead.

Liason [between CIA and FBI] did improve after Angleton's CI [counter intelligence] Staff took over CIA's assassination probe in early 1964.  The move was ordered by Helms, he later said, because the CI Staff "had over the years the responsibility for carrying on liaison with FBI, [and] was in a better position and used to dealing with the Bureau." That was only the official reason for the shift, however.  Unofficially, Helms wanted to remove the Agency's Soviet Division, which Angleton believed was penetrated by the KGB, from any direct role in investigating possible KGB complicity in the president's death. ...

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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2019, 02:29:27 AM »
(continuing, after leaving out about one page, from near the top page 205 in the book...)

Hoover was soothed when [CIA director John] McCone agreed the main responsibility for the investigation fell on the Bureau. If the Bureau said there was no foreign plot, the CIA would play along -- especially since that was the answer the White House wanted publicized.

While the public record was being censored, however, Angleton was considering more carefully, and secretly, the specter of a possible KGB plot. Angleton was bothered by [KGB defector Anatoliy] Golitsyn's ominous [December] 1961warning about the KGB's planning to kill "a Western political leader," by the mystery of Oswald's travels in the USSR, and by other unresolved questions. CIA had heard, for example, that [KGB officer Valiery] Kostikov [believed at that time by FBI and CIA to be in charge of assassinations in the Western Hemisphere] had planned in advance to leave Mexico on November 22, and that a Cubana Airlines flight to Havana was delayed for six hours on the tarmac in Mexico City on the night of the assassination, awaiting an unidentified passenger [Miguel Casas Saez?].

The man had finally arrived at the airport in a twin-engine aircraft, then failed to go through Customs, where he would have had to identify himself by displaying a passport. The Cubana plane took off and the mysterious passenger rode in the cockpit to Havana, precluding any identification by the passengers. Mexican surveillance soon established that Kostikov had remained in Mexico City, but Angleton still wondered who the passenger had been, why he flew to Cuba on the day the president died, and why he had taken such pains to conceal his identity. 

Similar questions swirled around Gilberto [Policarpo] Lopez, the Cuban-American who, by some reports to CIA, had been involved in Kennedy's death, and whose actions the FBI inexplicably failed to probe. Lopez had lived in Tampa, which was [rumoured Castro agent]  Santo Trafficante's base of operations, and he had visited Cuba for several weeks during May 1962, precisely when Trafficante had claimed to be sending his agents into Cuba to poison Castro.

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Re: Mysterious Cuban # 1: Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2019, 03:00:59 AM »
(... continued from the top of page 206 in the book)

Lopez was active in the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, whose leaflets Oswald had distributed, and his wife and others characterized Lopez as pro-Castro. It was also known that Lopez had a brother in the Cuban military who was studying in the Soviet Union. On November 17, 1963, the day President Kennedy's Dallas limousine route was announced, Lopez was at a get-together of the Tampa Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, where color slides of Cuba were shown.  CIA knew from several informants that Lopez had been at the residence for some time, waiting for an important telephone call -- the "go ahead order" for him to leave the United States. Lopez obtained a Mexican tourist card at the Honorary Consulate of Mexico in Tampa on November 20. Then he had departed for Texas.  What he did there was not known. At twelve noon on the day after the assassination, "Lopez entered Mexico on foot from Laredo, Texas ... and proceeded by bus to Mexico [City,] where he entered the Cuban Embassy. On 27 Nov he left Embassy for Cuba on Cubana flight 465 and was the only passenger allowed on the plane." 

Thereafter, Lopez was reportedly not working in Cuba, but spent most of his time playing dominoes -- a strange and luxurious treatment, indeed, for a purported dissident who had once defected to Cuba's main enemy.

https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/page/n381

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