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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #288 on: June 25, 2019, 10:31:44 PM »
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Since I have no idea what you are babbling about, could you please explain how your theory works?

Here is a high quality photo of Day's index card showing Oswald's print while simultaneously displaying the 5 random marks found on Oswald's rifle.

No, this high quality photo doesn't show any particular marks on any rifle.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #289 on: June 25, 2019, 10:33:00 PM »
No, this high quality photo doesn't show any particular marks on any rifle.

Prove it.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #290 on: June 25, 2019, 10:33:44 PM »
This isn't rocket science..... Just open your eyes and LOOK......The so call "palm print is item # 14 ( 14th item from the top of the list) on the evidence inventory list that was typed up to accompany the photos of the evidence.....

The only problem is that you have zero evidence that this list accompanied any evidence on 11/22/63.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #291 on: June 25, 2019, 10:39:50 PM »
No he didn't. That's one of the issues.  He was instructed to turn everything over to the FBI that night.  Somehow he "forgot" about the palmprint.

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That's one of the issues.

You keep inventing issues that have answers, Day testified that he too the palmprint on the 22nd, it's up to a jury to decide.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #292 on: June 25, 2019, 10:41:29 PM »
I have provided Day's words. They conflict with your assumption that the WC testimony indicates he was told to stop processing everything. It does not say that. Day's words in his oral history interviews clarifies that he was told to stop processing the rifle on 11/22/63. In the oral history interview he doesn't say anything about not getting back to checking the palmprint until he is talking about coming back to work and the rifle had already been returned. (And I think his choice of the words (that I underlined) is another indication that he had already started checking the palmprint and was interrupted before he could finish.) It appears to me that he did his brief examination of the palmprint after he lifted it and before the rifle was turned over to the FBI. Fritz, Bill Alexander, Jim Allen, and Forrest Sorrels leave city hall to discuss the evidence and eat at Majestic Steak House around 9:00 PM. Fritz said he wanted to wait until they developed the firearm and fingerprint evidence before they file the charges in the assassination. They decide to wait an hour or so. The assassination charges are filed against Oswald at 11:26 PM. The rifle is released to the FBI about 11:45 PM.

The discrepancy is that Day was doing his lifts at around 8:00 PM.  Day told the FBI (CE3145) that the instructions from Curry to go no further with the processing and to turn the evidence over occurred shortly before midnight.  So what was he doing between 8:00 and shortly before midnight?  How was this not enough time to even photograph the print and put cellophane over it like he did with the trigger guard prints?

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #293 on: June 25, 2019, 10:42:50 PM »
Prove it.

Duh.  Because it's a photograph of the index card, not a rifle.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #294 on: June 25, 2019, 10:45:06 PM »
No strange interpretation necessary. As I said earlier it is you taking a partial sentence out of context and trying to spin it.  He was told to stop processing the rifle. Here are his words from the 2006 oral history from the sixth floor museum: "...a few minutes later I get another order, don't do anything else to the gun. And Vince Drain will be there around 11:30 to pick it up... I definitely remember telling Drain there is a palm print on the underside of the barrel... I didn't turn the palm print in. They said give them the rifle, I gave them the rifle..."

You do know that Drain disputes this, right?

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #295 on: June 25, 2019, 10:45:30 PM »
Duh.  Because it's a photograph of the index card, not a rifle.

Huh? The index card shows 5 marks that were transferred from the rifle, the same card that shows Oswald's authenticated palm print.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #295 on: June 25, 2019, 10:45:30 PM »