CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?

[Richard Smith]

By the way, I won't dodge my own question.

What if Biden tried to seize control of elections. Support candidates who declare that if they are elected, Democrats will never lose another election in their state? What would I do?

I will drop my support for the Democrats. The country would be doomed. Either the Republicans or Democrats will take over. In either case, I won't contribute to either side taking over. It wouldn't matter to me in Trump or Biden took over.

Now, what is your answer?

Biden has done that.  Hillary and Stacy Abrams contended their elections were stolen.  The Dems conspired with social media to suppress news stories before the election that might harm their chances.  They used the justice department to stage armed tactical predawn raids on the homes of people accused of non-violent process crimes.  Biden falsely claimed that changes in the election laws were "Jim Crow 2.0" etc.  Trump was an amateur compared to those guys.  You really think the sitting president and commander-in-chief would stage an "insurrection" by sending a random group of hillbillies to the Capitol?  LOL.  Trump had control of the US military and nuclear arsenal but "Jan. 6" was his plan?  Let the voters sort it out.  That is how a democracy works even though Biden and the Dems don't apparently like it.   

[Joe Elliott]

Biden has done that.  Hillary and Stacy Abrams contended their elections were stolen.  The Dems conspired with social media to suppress news stories before the election that might harm their chances.  They used the justice department to stage armed tactical predawn raids on the homes of people accused of non-violent process crimes.  Biden falsely claimed that changes in the election laws were "Jim Crow 2.0" etc.  Trump was an amateur compared to those guys.  You really think the sitting president and commander-in-chief would stage an "insurrection" by sending a random group of hillbillies to the Capitol?  LOL.  Trump had control of the US military and nuclear arsenal but "Jan. 6" was his plan?  Let the voters sort it out.  That is how a democracy works even though Biden and the Dems don't apparently like it.

No, the Capitol riot is not how Democracy works. A Communist mob or a MAGA mob can't just storm the Capitol, and overturn Democracy, and "That's just how Democracy works". Even if all the members of a Communist mob or a MAGA mob are U. S. citizens. Democracy works by having the votes of all the people counted following the rule of law, with states officials and the courts being the final arbitrayers of what votes are valid or not. Not some mob, even if all the members of the mob are U. S. citizens.

No. Trump did not have control of the US military. Not so far as getting them to overturn Democracy. If General Michael Flynn had been Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and if the others in the military went along with him, yes, that would have been an option. And that would have been the option Trump would have chosen. Why use the Proud Boys when the military will do what ever you ask? But fortunately, General Mark Milley was in charge and using the military was never even remotely an option. He simply was not going to order troops to storm the Capitol. General Mark Milley sworn an oath to defend the Constitution, not to obey whatever order the President may give to him. And General Mark Milley did so.

I'm certain that if Trump becomes President again, he will do whatever it takes to get someone like General Michael Flynn as the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Maybe his brother. It will be a priority.

By the way, my question to Griffith is now being directed to you.

What do you intend to do if Trump is elected, establishes a permanent regime with himself or his chosen successor and charge of elections. And then you decide to change your mind. You want someone else in charge.

What do you think you and the current MAGA crowd would be able to do about it?

[Michael T. Griffith]

No, the Capitol riot is not how Democracy works. A Communist mob or a MAGA mob can't just storm the Capitol, and overturn Democracy, and "That's just how Democracy works". Even if all the members of a Communist mob or a MAGA mob are U. S. citizens. Democracy works by having the votes of all the people counted following the rule of law, with states officials and the courts being the final arbitrayers of what votes are valid or not. Not some mob, even if all the members of the mob are U. S. citizens.

No. Trump did not have control of the US military. Not so far as getting them to overturn Democracy. If General Michael Flynn had been Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and if the others in the military went along with him, yes, that would have been an option. And that would have been the option Trump would have chosen. Why use the Proud Boys when the military will do what ever you ask? But fortunately, General Mark Milley was in charge and using the military was never even remotely an option. He simply was not going to order troops to storm the Capitol. General Mark Milley sworn an oath to defend the Constitution, not to obey whatever order the President may give to him. And General Mark Milley did so.

I'm certain that if Trump becomes President again, he will do whatever it takes to get someone like General Michael Flynn as the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Maybe his brother. It will be a priority.

By the way, my question to Griffith is now being directed to you.

What do you intend to do if Trump is elected, establishes a permanent regime with himself or his chosen successor and charge of elections. And then you decide to change your mind. You want someone else in charge.

What do you think you and the current MAGA crowd would be able to do about it?

Joe, this is just crazy talk. Sheesh. You must be kidding. If you seriously, genuinely fear that Trump has any desire to "establish a permanent regime with himself or his chosen successor," I feel sorry for you. That's just paranoia.

As I've said, I hope Trump does not run again, and if he does, I hope he fails to get the GOP nomination.

Anyway, why don't we get back to the backyard rifle photos and the fact that the ring in 133-C is nowhere to seen in 133-A and that it's the same size as the ring in 133-B but is on a different hand.

There's also the fact that when Oswald was booked, he was not wearing a ring on either hand. His wedding ring was handed over the Secret Service weeks after the assassination; supposedly, he had left it with Marina before going to work on 11/22. Go read the detailed DPD property memo for Oswald's belongings. Standard police procedure when booking a suspect is to have them remove all watches and jewelry, which they did to Oswald.

[Richard Smith]

By the way, my question to Griffith is now being directed to you.

What do you intend to do if Trump is elected, establishes a permanent regime with himself or his chosen successor and charge of elections. And then you decide to change your mind. You want someone else in charge.

What do you think you and the current MAGA crowd would be able to do about it?

That is tin foil hat nonsense.  Trump left office after the last election.  He is almost as old as Joe Biden at this point but he is going to establish "a permanent regime."  Wow.  Not even sure what that means.  That Trump is immortal?   Maybe take a break from MSNBC and watch something more factual like "Ancient Aliens." 

[John Iacoletti]

You really think the sitting president and commander-in-chief would stage an "insurrection" by sending a random group of hillbillies to the Capitol?

Absolutely.

[Martin Weidmann]

That is tin foil hat nonsense.  Trump left office after the last election.  He is almost as old as Joe Biden at this point but he is going to establish "a permanent regime."  Wow.  Not even sure what that means.  That Trump is immortal?   Maybe take a break from MSNBC and watch something more factual like "Ancient Aliens."

That is tin foil hat nonsense.  Trump left office after the last election.

What a pathetic comment. What else was Trump going to do? Stay there, after all his efforts to overthrow the election had failed? If he had not left the White House he would have been thrown out.

[Jonathan Nolan]

Interesting that the original thread about evidence and explaining the presence of the mannlicher carcano descended into off topic twaddle about the current deep state civil war. Hopefully this is not typical. If it is, it is highly suspicious given that many of the same families who participated in the JFK murder plot still hold power today.

To answer the original question, the rifle was brought to the building by the same team who included the shooter on the roof of the TSBD.

It isn't enough to simply scoff at alternate suggestions by the way. And in terms of the "mountains of evidence" all of it was tainted beyond usability in court when it was taken away by the FBI, breaking the chain of custody established in Dallas. Given the notoriety of FBI evidence falsification that has come to light in the decades since, it is easily understood as to why the break in the chain of evidence would make it unusable.

[Martin Weidmann]

Interesting that the original thread about evidence and explaining the presence of the mannlicher carcano descended into off topic twaddle about the current deep state civil war. Hopefully this is not typical. If it is, it is highly suspicious given that many of the same families who participated in the JFK murder plot still hold power today.

To answer the original question, the rifle was brought to the building by the same team who included the shooter on the roof of the TSBD.

It isn't enough to simply scoff at alternate suggestions by the way. And in terms of the "mountains of evidence" all of it was tainted beyond usability in court when it was taken away by the FBI, breaking the chain of custody established in Dallas. Given the notoriety of FBI evidence falsification that has come to light in the decades since, it is easily understood as to why the break in the chain of evidence would make it unusable.

To answer the original question, the rifle was brought to the building by the same team who included the shooter on the roof of the TSBD.

Now that you have answered the original question, what kind of evidence do you have to back it up?