CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?

[Martin Weidmann]

Ralph Yates is probably the best evidence that Frazier was right about the length of the package (that it was 27 inches) Oswald had on the morning of Nov 22nd 1963.

Yates is saying that Oswald brought the rifle in well before Nov 22nd.

Its not an entirely implausible scenario.

Its not an entirely implausible scenario.

Actually, it is an entirely implausible scenario because there is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald kept a rifle at the roominghouse. Earlene Roberts, who cleaned his room, stated that she had not even seen a revolver there, let alone a rifle. With so many people living there and having only a tiny room, how in the world would he have been able to bring in and hide a rifle without anybody seeing it.

Also, Oswald could not have known Kennedy would come to Dallas until perhaps some two days prior to his arrival. He went to Irving on Thursday evening and didn't return to his roominghouse until Friday afternoon. This means that, in theory, Oswald could have brought in a rifle to the TSBD on Wednesday or Thursday, but that would bring with it the risk of early discovery regardless of where he would have hidden the weapon.

[Walt Cakebread]

Its not an entirely implausible scenario.

Actually, it is an entirely implausible scenario because there is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald kept a rifle at the roominghouse. Earlene Roberts, who cleaned his room, stated that she had not even seen a revolver there, let alone a rifle. With so many people living there and having only a tiny room, how in the world would he have been able to bring in and hide a rifle without anybody seeing it.

Also, Oswald could not have known Kennedy would come to Dallas until perhaps some two days prior to his arrival. He went to Irving on Thursday evening and didn't return to his roominghouse until Friday afternoon. This means that, in theory, Oswald could have brought in a rifle to the TSBD on Wednesday or Thursday, but that would bring with it the risk of early discovery regardless of where he would have hidden the weapon.

Thanks for rebutting the silly tale that Yates created.....  Why some folks believe this kind of nonsense is a mystery to me.

[Gerry Down]

The Curtain Rod Story was not invented until the cops created it after the shots were fired.

Actually Buell Frazier was the one who told the cops about the curtain rods. And i dont think you can seriously fit Frazier in to any conspiracy. No known connection between the two prior to October.

[Izraul Hidashi]

Okay. So did you read the story provided here in full? I just did. And here's the facts. Ralph Yates told a co worker about the incident that day. And he told the FBI about it 3 days after assassination. THREE DAYS! Now you claim he was just some crazy man that made it up. Right?

So according to YOU, and YOUR research, Ralph Yates was just some crazy man who made up this wild story about picking up a guy that looked exactly like Oswald,  right next to his boarding home. And his phony story was this fake person happened to be carrying a paper bag. And this fake man claimed the paper bag had curtain rods in it. And then he dropped the fake man in front of the depository.

Not a single member of the public knew about the paper bag curtain rod story that also came from a fellow employee of Oswald. So we have a crazy man who just made up a story that would be exactly similar to someone else, is that it? So not only was Ralph Yates crazy, but he was psychic as well. Right? Because his co-worker wasn't crazy. Why would his co-work lie to the FBI about Yates telling him that story 2 days before the assassination? What purpose would his co-worker have to lie about something that serious? DOES THAT REALLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

You can post all the crap you want about his mental state, but what you can't do is erase the facts. And because you can't explain them, you rather just dismiss them. LOL What are the odds that YATES could have made up a story like that? Were not talking about just making up something that didn't happen. Because supposedly 2 days later, that's exactly what happened. And there's no way YATES could have heard about it, because nobody but the police knew that.

And YOUR claim is... he was just crazy! Well okay... then you have to admit that he was also psychic. Otherwise, to ignore all that, means you're just as crazy as he was. Sorry, but for anyone to try that hard to ignore facts doesn't make sense. It sounds like you're more worried about seeming right.

[Gerry Down]

Okay. So did you read the story provided here in full? I just did. And here's the facts. Ralph Yates told a co worker about the incident that day. And he told the FBI about it 3 days after assassination. THREE DAYS! Now you claim he was just some crazy man that made it up. Right?

So according to YOU, and YOUR research, Ralph Yates was just some crazy man who made up this wild story about picking up a guy that looked exactly like Oswald,  right next to his boarding home. And his phony story was this fake person happened to be carrying a paper bag. And this fake man claimed the paper bag had curtain rods in it. And then he dropped the fake man in front of the depository.

I'm not claiming Yates was fake. I think he was being honest about what he thought he saw.

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm not claiming Yates was fake. I think he was being honest about what he thought he saw.

Yes, your right, ......I know a person who has alzheimers , and they make up stories and actually believe the story happened.

[Gerry Down]

Yes, your right, ......I know a person who has alzheimers , and they make up stories and actually believe the story happened.

Maybe Oswald forgot that he just brought in the rifle that morning, to you know, assassinate the President. He was probably just tired and forgot to tell Fritz during questioning.

[Jerry Freeman]

Oswald's rifle was discovered on the 6th floor, how did it get there?

Ever notice that Mytton always asks a question that he already has his own pat answer for?
Yet..when someone of a skeptical nature asks something similar, he either ignores it or like others, just makes something up.
Asked about the return to Irving from New Orleans......

Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether or not the rifle was carried in the station wagon?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, it was.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you have anything to do with loading it in there?
Mrs. OSWALD. No. Lee was loading everything on because I was pregnant at the time. But I know that Lee loaded the rifle on.
Mr. RANKIN. Was the rifle carried in some kind of a case when you went back with Mrs. Paine?
Mrs. OSWALD. After we arrived, I tried to put the bed, the child's crib together, the metallic parts, and I looked for a certain part, and I came upon something wrapped in a blanket. I thought that was part of the bed, but it turned out to be the rifle.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you remember whether the pistol was carried back in Mrs. Paine's car too?
Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know where the pistol was.

So Lee allegedly loaded the rifle wrapped in a blanket but had a devil might care but I don't concern about who would unload it?
Do you remember whether the pistol was carried back in Mrs. Paine's car too?
That question was asked without really establishing whether or not a pistol was actually ever taken to New Orleans.
I don't know where the pistol was.
With that...Rankin then stopped asking Marina about the weapons.
Ask no more questions...you will hear no more lies.
They were repeated at the HSC hearings---

Mr. McDONALD. Did he ever take it out, outside the apartment, to practice with it, to do anything with it?
Mrs. PORTER. Yes, he did.
Mr. McDONALD. And what did he do?
Mrs. PORTER. He will, like before it gets very dark outside, he would leave apartment dressed with the dark raincoat, even though it was a hot summer night, pretty hot weather anyway, and he would be wearing this, and he would be hiding the rifle underneath his raincoat. He said he is going to target practice or something like that. 
Mr. McDONALD. This was one occasion you are talking about with the raincoat?
Mrs. PORTER. It is several occasions, maybe more than once.
Mr. McDONALD. He did the same thing on several occasions, put the raincoat on?
Mrs. PORTER. Yes.
Mr. McDONALD. And the rifle under the raincoat?
Mrs. PORTER. Yes. 

In 1964----
 Mrs Paine was badgered asked 14 times if she ever knew about any weapons owned by Lee Oswald during her first round of questions.
Her consistent answer ..."No I didn't".
The only thing that seems to make the 6th floor rifle-- "Oswald's rifle" is the consistent...non-stop.. redundant claim that it was Oswald's rifle.