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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #224 on: July 09, 2019, 03:32:15 AM »
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Again?  You have never answered the question as far as I know.  Did you post as Roger Collins or not?  It is not a trick question.  There is no penalty for confirming or denying.  I only ask because my recollection is that Roger Collins claimed to be an attorney while you seem devoid of even the most basic legal knowledge.

You have never answered the question as far as I know.

Right,...………... as far as you know

Perhaps you did not (want to) understand when I described the whole claim as utter nonsense, several times in the past.

Repeating the same question over and over again is not going to get you a different answer nor the answer you seem to be looking for.


my recollection is that Roger Collins claimed to be an attorney

Really? What kind of an attorney would that be? And could he have been a lawyer, rather than an attorney? You do know the difference, don't you, or do you need to google it?


while you seem devoid of even the most basic legal knowledge

And on what basis and authority did you make such a determination? Do you qualify as a legal eagle or are you just an armchair lawyer using google?
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 04:19:31 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #225 on: July 09, 2019, 06:29:25 PM »
There is no doubt that there were 3 shots

"There is no doubt" is LN-ese for "in my opinion".

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #226 on: July 09, 2019, 06:37:10 PM »
Ruth Paine mentioned Oswald's physical abuse of Marina, in regards having Oswald move out.

Cite please.

Mr. JENNER - I am not thinking so much within the letter. Did she go beyond stating that he was merely only angry? Was there any discussion about his having struck her?
Mrs. PAINE - No; none. No; none. She never mentioned to me ever that Lee had struck her.
Mr. JENNER - And during all the visits you ever had with her, all the tete-a-tetes, her living with you on this occasion we now describe as 15 1/2 days, and in the fall, was there any occasion when Marina Oswald related to you any abuse, physical abuse, by her husband, Lee Harvey Oswald, with respect to her?
Mrs. PAINE - There was never any such occasion.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #227 on: July 09, 2019, 06:39:08 PM »
The point is I think Oswald probably did it.

Being personally sure about something is not a particularly compelling argument.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #228 on: July 10, 2019, 12:03:18 AM »
"There is no doubt" is LN-ese for "in my opinion".

No, the vast majority of the ear-witnesses said they heard 3 shots.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #229 on: July 10, 2019, 12:28:39 AM »
No, the vast majority of the ear-witnesses said they heard 3 shots.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #230 on: July 10, 2019, 01:47:48 AM »
Cite please.

Mr. JENNER - I am not thinking so much within the letter. Did she go beyond stating that he was merely only angry? Was there any discussion about his having struck her?
Mrs. PAINE - No; none. No; none. She never mentioned to me ever that Lee had struck her.
Mr. JENNER - And during all the visits you ever had with her, all the tete-a-tetes, her living with you on this occasion we now describe as 15 1/2 days, and in the fall, was there any occasion when Marina Oswald related to you any abuse, physical abuse, by her husband, Lee Harvey Oswald, with respect to her?
Mrs. PAINE - There was never any such occasion.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.pressdemocrat.com/news/2884078-181/oswalds-wife-finds-a-cryptic%3fview=AMP

'By that time in the spring of 1963, Paine said, she'd come to resent that Oswald was physically abusive of Marina and he wanted to control and keep her isolated.'
« Last Edit: July 10, 2019, 01:51:40 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #231 on: July 10, 2019, 02:03:16 AM »
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.pressdemocrat.com/news/2884078-181/oswalds-wife-finds-a-cryptic%3fview=AMP

'By that time in the spring of 1963, Paine said, she'd come to resent that Oswald was physically abusive of Marina and he wanted to control and keep her isolated.'


Amazing….


In her testimony Paine says that Marina never mentioned to her that Lee had struck her and even after her return to Dallas in September 1963 Marina never mentioned any abuse by Lee.

 
So, how could Paine "come to resent that Oswald was physically abusive of Marina" when she had no way of knowing that?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #231 on: July 10, 2019, 02:03:16 AM »