Crease in SN box

[Walt Cakebread]

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The rifle as it would be resting on the trigger-guard-housing in the crease. Maybe the left hand could pin the top of the rifle but not such that the scope was blocked.

I did not expect it to be almost working for the head shot. The Carcano rifle in this model may not clear the edge of the carton (Box A) because my model is inaccurate. I would not dismiss the possibility based on this model. A real-life Carcano and box replica may work.

For both shots, the Carcano clears the box resting on the window sill.

 https://ibb.co/Fqm637B

These drawings are ludicrous....They reveal a desperate attempt to make the official scenario believable.  Referring to the first drawing .... The fore grip of the rifle is not sitting on the box...it appears to be sunk into the cardboard of the box...This needed to be done to allow the trigger guard / Magazine to contact the top of the box.
 The distance from the trigger to the butt plate of a carcano is 13 inches.....  Which means that a shooter sitting on a box to the rear and  holding this rifle would be leaning forward and his chest would be nearly touching the box and his shoulder would be about 30 inches from the floor.... but the rile butt would be about 38 inches from the floor ( IOW  the rifle butt would be above the man's shoulder.  And he could not place his left hand beneath the fore grip of the rifle.)

I don't know why I bothered to respond to such a ridiculous post.....

 

[Walt Cakebread]

No "attempt" from me to make some "official scenario believable". I'm just showing the physical possibility in one particular 3D model. Let the chips fall where they may.

You, however, seem a bit desperate to disprove anything the WC or HSCA claimed in regards to a gunman being at the SN.

The Z223 shot would not work with the crease. Or (maybe a better term) the gouge.



Always making it seem impossible or requiring some "Got Talent" feat of contortion.

In the scenario, the weight of the rifle would be on "Box A". Pinning the rifle down with the left hand might be more feasible. OK, now you'll claim the scope would be blocked.

May I compare you to H.L. Mencken, Art Buchwald and Harold Weisberg? You're drawn to the absurdity of things. In this topic, the most absurd thing would be that the gouge was caused by the gunman. Look at what's the President today. Life abounds with absurdities and contradictions.

Always making it seem impossible or requiring some "Got Talent" feat of contortion.

Yes, You're right... A man could not contort his body to fire the rifle as you've depicted in the drawing....

[Walt Cakebread]

No "attempt" from me to make some "official scenario believable". I'm just showing the physical possibility in one particular 3D model. Let the chips fall where they may.

You, however, seem a bit desperate to disprove anything the WC or HSCA claimed in regards to a gunman being at the SN.

The Z223 shot would not work with the crease. Or (maybe a better term) the gouge.



Always making it seem impossible or requiring some "Got Talent" feat of contortion.

In the scenario, the weight of the rifle would be on "Box A". Pinning the rifle down with the left hand might be more feasible. OK, now you'll claim the scope would be blocked.

May I compare you to H.L. Mencken, Art Buchwald and Harold Weisberg? You're drawn to the absurdity of things. In this topic, the most absurd thing would be that the gouge was caused by the gunman. Look at what's the President today. Life abounds with absurdities and contradictions.

You, however, seem a bit desperate to disprove anything the WC or HSCA claimed in regards to a gunman being at the SN.

Apparently you have forgotten that Howard Brennan said that he saw a man STANDING ( not sitting on a box behind a stack of boxes) and aiming a rifle out of a window.   Brennan's statement is in direct conflict with you're silly drawings.

[Jerry Freeman]

Is that Lego Oswald? 

[Denis Pointing]

Is that Lego Oswald? 

Obviously Jerry Organ's not nearly as skilful as yourself...when can we expect your improved 3D model then?

[Walt Cakebread]

Obviously Jerry Organ's not nearly as skilful as yourself...when can we expect your improved 3D model then?

Brennan said he saw a man STANDING and aiming a hunting rifle out of a sixth floor window.....If the shooter had been SITTING behind the stack of boxes in the SE corner window,  Brennan could not have seen him.  There was no shooter behind that SE corner window.

[John Mytton]

        We continue hearing that the boxes stacked in the sniper's nest were allegedly FULL of books.

Do you ever get anything right?





Mr. BALL. You have seen pictures of the window, haven't you?
Mr. SHELLEY. Oh, yes.
Mr. BALL. With the larger box on the floor and two Rolling Readers on the top?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. One Rolling Reader resting in the sill of the window?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shelley2.htm

JohnM

[Royell Storing]

Do you ever get anything right?





Mr. BALL. You have seen pictures of the window, haven't you?
Mr. SHELLEY. Oh, yes.
Mr. BALL. With the larger box on the floor and two Rolling Readers on the top?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. One Rolling Reader resting in the sill of the window?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shelley2.htm

JohnM

     Thanks. If this is what is inside the box leaning on the window sill, it would Not be adequate to brace/steady the box behind it. Again, what was the purpose of the box on the window sill?