A Better Sequence (TM DVP)

[Alan Hardaker]

Alan why does "it follow" that Williams left the 6th floor before 12.15pm. Can you provide any testimony by anyone that would support that claim?

No I can't. The timelines, as I claimed are a bit fuzzy,but do you think Oswald was lurking behind boxes as Williams was eating his lunch and waiting or hoping for him to go. Bearing in mind that Oswald might have expected the motorcade to pass the TSBD at about 12.20. So to have any chance of carrying out his crazy plan he had to be set by 12.20. Oswald might have had the mindset of thinking that it was very unlikely that he will, in reality kill JFK, and that might help explain his erratic departure and the subsequent mahem.

[John Iacoletti]

Rowland reconstructed the assassination in his mind until he finally convinces himself there was another person.

Howard Brennan reconstructed the assassination in his mind until he finally convinced himself that he saw Oswald.

Why didn’t the WC subject Brennan to the same grilling and investigation of his past, questioning his wife about him, etc. that they did to Rowland? I think we all know the answer to that.

[Alan Hardaker]

It might've occured to Oswald, if he was the assassin that is, to have considered the 5th floor as a more suitable snipers nest location, given that the 6th floor was being relayed and that there might be more workers knocking about that normal. But not enough credit is given for Oswald's deviousness and cunning. He was probably slightly over qualified for the position of order filler, mentally at least.

In terms of the sequence of events on the day and the movements of other workers. It has to be remembered that Oswald was not "one of the lads"..he was a loner, an outsider.Probably by choice at the TSBD. So his movements would not be as predictable as others. This undoubtable helped him keep a low profile on the day. Keep him from being noticed. For this reason and other considerations it doesn't seem all that difficult for him to smuggle the weapon in and get into place to have a chance. Some issues with regard to some of the timings and sightings, before the assassination, but nothing that really affects Oswalds intentions.

[John Iacoletti]

If Rowland sees a man with a highpowered rifle at "port arms"about 12.15 on 6th floor, it could be that gunman was looking at other windows to assess the shot. It follows that Williams must've left the 6th floor at this point, otherwise he would've seen Oswald.

Who says it was Oswald that Rowland saw at 12:15? And maybe Williams did see the gunman. That’s the whole point.

[Alan Hardaker]

Who says it was Oswald that Rowland saw at 12:15? And maybe Williams did see the gunman. That’s the whole point.

My own veiw is that Oswald was on the 6th floor and he did willfully assassinate JFK. It's not a open & shut case against Oswald but there is more than enough evidence to get a conviction.IMO.

[Alan Hardaker]

Howard Brennan reconstructed the assassination in his mind until he finally convinced himself that he saw Oswald.

Why didn’t the WC subject Brennan to the same grilling and investigation of his past, questioning his wife about him, etc. that they did to Rowland? I think we all know the answer to that.

Could be suggested a lot of people "reconstructed" the assassination in their minds and come up with a conclusion that fits their agenda.

[Colin Crow]

My own veiw is that Oswald was on the 6th floor and he did willfully assassinate JFK. It's not a open & shut case against Oswald but there is more than enough evidence to get a conviction.IMO.

Was that conclusion reached before you were presented the evidence that Williams likely vacated the 6th floor just prior to the shooting, leaving his unfinished chicken on a SN box?

Williams had repeatedly lied about his lunch trip to authorities. Jarman and Norman also gave no indication prior to their testifying before the WC that Williams joined them just before the motorcade arrived. Why might that be?

[Alan Hardaker]

Was that conclusion reached before you were presented the evidence that Williams likely vacated the 6th floor just prior to the shooting, leaving his unfinished chicken on a SN box?

Williams had repeatedly lied about his lunch trip to authorities. Jarman and Norman also gave no indication prior to their testifying before the WC that Williams joined them just before the motorcade arrived. Why might that be?

In fairness yes it was. Well it might be that Williams took a bit longer to eat his lunch or it might have taken him a bit longer to decide to go down. He expected others to join him but they didn't so he went down. How does any of the movements of other workers effect Oswald other than to slightly delay him getting into position. I'm not at all sure these guys lied.It's more a case of poor recall and OK it might be construed that they were fibbing when in truth they were probably a bit muddled as to their recollections. I don't suppose they thought at the time that they would have to be 100% accurate as to their movements that day.

Their testimony does contain vital evidence in some instances like Jarman, Norman and Williams hearing the gunshots etc  coming from the floor above their 5th floor vantage point.