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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2019, 12:24:48 AM »
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In his WC testimony, Haygood said he was just approaching Houston Street on Main Street when he heard the first shot ring out.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/haygood.htm

Regardless, how far from the Elm Street Curve do you think Press Bus # 1 and Haygood were at that time? 

ADVANCE CAR
PILOT CAR
LEAD CAR
PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE
PRESIDENTIAL SECRET SERVICE FOLLOW-UP CAR
VICE PRESIDENTIAL CAR
VICE PRESIDENTIAL SECRET SERVICE FOLLOW-UP CAR
MAYOR'S CAR
NATIONAL PRESS POOL CAR
CAMERA CAR #1
CAMERA CAR #2
CAMERA CAR #3
CONGRESSMAN'S CAR #1
CONGRESSMAN'S CAR #2
CONGRESSMAN'S CAR #3
VIP CAR
WHITE HOUSE PRESS BUS #1
LOCAL PRESS POOL CAR
WHITE HOUSE PRESS BUS #2
WASHINGTON PRESS ON TRIP (WHICH PRESS BUS ON
UNKNOWN)
EXTRA CAR #1
WESTERN UNION CAR
WHITE HOUSE SIGNAL CORPS CAR
EXTRA CAR #2
OFFICIAL PARTY BUS
REAR POLICE CAR

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/M%20Disk/Motorcade%20Route/Item%2015.pdf

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       Guess you Now want to drop Your claiming there were Only 4 motorcycle cops in the JFK Motorcade? This is progress.  Obviously, Haygood was Still on Main St. That is WAY BEHIND the JFK Limo.

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Re: Is This Our Man?
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2019, 12:38:37 AM »
       Guess you Now want to drop Your claiming there were Only 4 motorcycle cops in the JFK Motorcade? This is progress.  Obviously, Haygood was Still on Main St. That is WAY BEHIND the JFK Limo.

Royell,

For purposes of our conversation, it doesn't matter how far Hayood was from JFK's limousine when the first shot rang out, but how far he was from Mal Couch's "parked" camera car # 3 he was.

Why? 

Because we know by watching the Couch-Darnell synchronized GIF that two characters who look like Lovelady and Shelly were "caught" walking down Elm Street Extension in Darnell just a couple of seconds before Haygood passes Couch's camera car # 3 in his part of the GIF.

Regardless, how far is WAY BEHIND?

You don't know?

There were only four cars between camera car # 3 and press bus # 1, close to which Haygood was riding during the motorcade before all hell broke loose.

Was Haygood so far up Main Street with press bus # 1 when the shots rang out that it took him three minutes to ride his highly-manueverable motorcycle to the Elm Street Curve?

LOL

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PS  Do you think DCM and TUM sat on the curb for three minutes?

Do you think the Newman family lay on the grass for three minutes?

Do you think it took Mark Bell three minutes to climb down from the pedestal he was on by the reflecting pool and walk a few few closer to the infield grass and start filming again?
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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2019, 01:36:43 AM »
Royell,

For purposes of our conversation, it doesn't matter how far Hayood was from JFK's limousine when the first shot rang out, but how far he was from Mal Couch's "parked" camera car # 3 he was.

Why? 

Because we know by watching the Couch-Darnell synchronized GIF that two characters who look like Lovelady and Shelly were "caught" walking down Elm Street Extension in Darnell just a couple of seconds before Haygood passes Couch's camera car # 3 in his part of the GIF.

Regardless, how far is WAY BEHIND?

You don't know?

There were only four cars between camera car # 3 and press bus # 1, close to which Haygood was riding during the motorcade before all hell broke loose.

Was Haygood so far up Main Street with press bus # 1 when the shots rang out that it took him three minutes to ride his highly-manueverable motorcycle to the Elm Street Curve?

LOL

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PS  Do you think DCM and TUM sat on the curb for three minutes?

Do you think the Newman family lay on the grass for three minutes?

Do you think it took Mark Bell three minutes to climb down from the pedestal he was on by the reflecting pool and walk a few few closer to the infield grass and start filming again?

        Get it right. It was 2-3 minutes. Why not just boil it down to 1 simple question? Do I think the middle aged Wiegman took 2-3 minutes to navigate the obstacle course he went through? Yes I do.

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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2019, 01:58:06 AM »
        Get it right. It was 2-3 minutes. Why not just boil it down to 1 simple question? Do I think the middle aged Wiegman took 2-3 minutes to navigate the obstacle course he went through? Yes I do.

Royell, what is your timestamp for this photo?




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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2019, 02:43:45 AM »
Royell, what is your timestamp for this photo?





   Roughly 2 minutes give or take after the Kill Shot.

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« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2019, 02:47:55 AM »
Royell, what is your timestamp for this photo?





About 30 seconds.

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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2019, 02:59:53 AM »
About 30 seconds.

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   Review the Officer Hargis WC Testimony and view the Z/Wiegman Films. It took Hargis 30 seconds to bring his motorcycle to a Stop and simply get cross Elm St.
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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2019, 03:16:35 AM »
   Review the Officer Hargis WC Testimony and view the Z/Wiegman Films. It took Hargis 30 seconds to bring his motorcycle to a Stop and simply get cross Elm St.

Royell,

Who is the motorcycle policeman leading the travelling-down-Elm camera cars in Wiegman right after he'd filmed the Newman family lying on the grass?

Did Wiegman say he was already running when the second and third shots were fired?

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« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2019, 03:16:35 AM »