Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy

[Tim Nickerson]

Talk about a circular argument.

What statute gave the feds the authority to seize evidence from a state investigation?  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't.

18 U.S. Code ? 372

[John Mytton]

18 U.S. Code ? 372

*Since, as indicated earlier in the text, in 1963 there was no federal jurisdiction over the murder of President Kennedy on a Dallas street (as opposed to on federal property), how did the FBI, a federal agency, even have jurisdiction to investigate the murder? Under Title 18 of Section 372 in the U.S. Code, it was a federal crime (no matter where committed) to conspire to murder any federal official on account of, or while he was engaged in, the lawful discharge of his duties, language that would have covered the murder of the president. And at the time of the assassination, in the eyes of many, including President Johnson, the possibility of a conspiracy was very real. However, the Warren Commission acknowledged that ?once it became reasonably clear [they never identified this point in time] that the killing was the act of a single person, the State of Texas had exclusive jurisdiction?[and the FBI handled the investigation thereafter] only upon the sufferance of the local authorities.? (WR, pp.454, 456; 5 H 25, WCT Alan H. Belmont; Cushman, ?Why the Warren Commission?? pp.478?479) The above in no way militates against the inherent power of President Johnson to have established, by executive order (11130), the Warren Commission, or that of Congress (by Senate Joint Resolution 137) to have empowered the Commission to issue subpoenas and grant immunity in carrying out its mandate. It only deals with the issue of whether Texas law enforcement or the FBI had investigative jurisdiction over the case
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[John Iacoletti]

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Not even the Bug-man tries to make the silly argument that 18 U.S. Code ? 372 authorizes the seizing of evidence.  If the feds really thought they were acting under 18 U.S. Code ? 372, they wouldn't have bothered just requesting that the Dallas PD send them all the other evidence on 11/22.

Tim is just making an after-the-fact rationalization.

[Lee Wotton]

It's not possible to drive though a city avoiding high buildings with open windows.

In Dallas they could of voided Elm Street altogether.  You are correct though but the SS should be ensuring no windows are open and no one on roofs.  Shame they forgot that rule on that particular day

[Lee Wotton]

They had an officer at the DPD? What does that even mean?

What errors did the Secret Service make that day that they didn't make on preceding days?

SA Kunkel he was trying to control things just like the SS did at Parkland Hospital with the armed robbery of the POTUS's body.

Erm what mistake did the SS make on 11/22? How about not protecting the POTUS from getting killed? Or even making it so easy to kill him?

[Lee Wotton]

You're blowing smoke.  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't say anything about seizing evidence.  Nor have you shown any evidence that federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction was ever asserted.

Good point John but at least Tim's garbage refers to the events being a conspiracy!!

[Lee Wotton]

Conspiracy to assassinate the President was a federal crime under 18 U.S. Code ? 372. That gives the Feds the authority to seize evidence. The Feds asserted their investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction when they removed JFK's body from Dallas.

They had no authority to break the chain of evidence nor did the FBI apart from their high cabal superiors

[Lee Wotton]

Tim,

I would be interested in you looking back to my OP and later attempts to get back on topic and stating how all the evidence of bullet damage, wounds, finds, fragments in and out of bodies an be attributed to 3 bullets.

There are 2 rules to this task:

1. There's no such thing as magic
2. The laws of physics must be adhered to