Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"

[Charles Collins]

You're weird, Charlie.....  and blinded by your emotions.

That opinion, coming from you, lets me know that I am on the correct path...

[John Iacoletti]

That opinion doesn’t surprise me (coming from one who apparently doesn’t think that there is any evidence whatsoever in the assassination case).

I didn’t say that.

However, it doesn’t surprise me that your confirmation bias would interpret a Castro “communist salute” in a picture of a guy showing a reporter his handcuffed hands.

[John Iacoletti]

The communist salute is the symbol which both LHO and Castro identify with.

What is your evidence that Oswald identified with a “communist salute” or even thought there was such a thing?

And while we’re at it, what does any of this have to do with the assassination?

Marxist somehow equals assassin?

[Walt Cakebread]

I didn’t say that.

However, it doesn’t surprise me that your confirmation bias would interpret a Castro “communist salute” in a picture of a guy showing a reporter his handcuffed hands.

I haven't did a study of human gestures, but it seems to me that it would be natural for a person to close his hand when holding it up ....  Raising an open hand indicates that the person wants to ask, or answer, a question......   

[Walt Cakebread]

I didn’t say that.

However, it doesn’t surprise me that your confirmation bias would interpret a Castro “communist salute” in a picture of a guy showing a reporter his handcuffed hands.

This raises a nagging question.....Why DID, Lee hold his manacled hands up to the reporter?     Did he reply to the question ..."Are you under arrest ?" by holding up his handcuffed hands.....

[Charles Collins]

What is your evidence that Oswald identified with a “communist salute” or even thought there was such a thing?

And while we’re at it, what does any of this have to do with the assassination?

Marxist somehow equals assassin?

From “Malcontent - Lee Harvey Oswald’s Confession by Conduct” by Sean R. DeGrilla:

It has been the official salute of all Communist Parties. It encapsulates connotations of resistance, solidarity, pride and militancy in one simple gesture. To understand the meaning of Oswald’s clenched-fist salute displayed while under arrest in police custody, and as he lay dying on the floor of police headquarters, it is important to understand the gesture’s rich and deep history. “The clenched-fist salute has been used among revolutionaries for many centuries as a symbol of defiance, comradeship, and solidarity. It was employed during the bloody French revolution of 1789, and again during the industrial revolution of 1848. At the formation of the First International in London in 1864… Karl Marx and his followers gave the clenched-fist salute… it had been used by the Paris Communes of 1871, a violent affair which led to the deaths of over 25,000 Parisians. Since the Third International, the Comintern begun in Moscow in 1919, it has been the official salute of all Communist Parties throughout the world.”[ 223] The socialists followed suit with the communists and adopted the clenched-fist salute.

[Walt Cakebread]

From “Malcontent - Lee Harvey Oswald’s Confession by Conduct” by Sean R. DeGrilla:

It has been the official salute of all Communist Parties. It encapsulates connotations of resistance, solidarity, pride and militancy in one simple gesture. To understand the meaning of Oswald’s clenched-fist salute displayed while under arrest in police custody, and as he lay dying on the floor of police headquarters, it is important to understand the gesture’s rich and deep history. “The clenched-fist salute has been used among revolutionaries for many centuries as a symbol of defiance, comradeship, and solidarity. It was employed during the bloody French revolution of 1789, and again during the industrial revolution of 1848. At the formation of the First International in London in 1864… Karl Marx and his followers gave the clenched-fist salute… it had been used by the Paris Communes of 1871, a violent affair which led to the deaths of over 25,000 Parisians. Since the Third International, the Comintern begun in Moscow in 1919, it has been the official salute of all Communist Parties throughout the world.”[ 223] The socialists followed suit with the communists and adopted the clenched-fist salute.

It encapsulates connotations of resistance,

Yes, and I believe that Lee might have been telling Warren De Brueys and Bannister that he would not reveal that they had been working with him in staging a HOAX attempt on JFK, that was basically the same MO that had been used at Walker's in April.     

[John Iacoletti]

From “Malcontent - Lee Harvey Oswald’s Confession by Conduct” by Sean R. DeGrilla:

It has been the official salute of all Communist Parties. It encapsulates connotations of resistance, solidarity, pride and militancy in one simple gesture. To understand the meaning of Oswald’s clenched-fist salute displayed while under arrest in police custody, and as he lay dying on the floor of police headquarters, it is important to understand the gesture’s rich and deep history. “The clenched-fist salute has been used among revolutionaries for many centuries as a symbol of defiance, comradeship, and solidarity. It was employed during the bloody French revolution of 1789, and again during the industrial revolution of 1848. At the formation of the First International in London in 1864… Karl Marx and his followers gave the clenched-fist salute… it had been used by the Paris Communes of 1871, a violent affair which led to the deaths of over 25,000 Parisians. Since the Third International, the Comintern begun in Moscow in 1919, it has been the official salute of all Communist Parties throughout the world.”[ 223] The socialists followed suit with the communists and adopted the clenched-fist salute.

Interesting history lesson. Any reason to think that Oswald was even aware of any of that, much less was thinking about that when the photo was taken?