A Guilty Man

[Walt Cakebread]

Jack,

I'm surprised that you're glibly asserting that the so-called Magic Bullet was "pristine" when everyone knows that it wasn't.

As to how that rounded-point bullet could have done so much damage, watch PBS Nova's "Cold Case JFK".  You can watch all of the separate episodes on YouTube.

It shows the same kind of very-stable-in-flight bullet being fired from the same kind of rifle and penetrating three feet of pine wood. The fact that that kind of bullet has a strong tendency to "yaw" upward and start tumbling upon exiting something helps to explain how it injured Connally the way that it did and yet lose only a little of its mass, squeezed out of its slightly flattened base during a glancing (but devestating) blow to his wrist.



--  MWT 

squeezed out of its slightly flattened base  

HUH??   Take a 1/4 inch diameter piece of lead ( like a fishing weight ) and try to squeeze it through a smaller diameter hole...   Lead doesn't flow like toothpaste from a tube....

[Walt Cakebread]

Wouldn't the pathologists have noticed mercury moving in the brain, pooling in the skull and dripping?

That's very difficult to determine..... minute particles of mercury like those that show up in an ex-ray would probably have remained where they came to rest.

Probably the majority of the mass blew right out of the huge opening in the back of JFK's skull.    Do you recall that Clint Hill said that he heard an unusual noise about the time he reached the back of the Lincoln?  Hill described the noise a like that of a 45 caliber bullet hitting a concrete wall.  ( Probably something that he had heard and could relate the sound to. )   I would imagine a mercury bullet would make an unusual impact sound.   

[Thomas Graves]

squeezed out of its slightly flattened base  

HUH??   Take a 1/4 inch diameter piece of lead ( like a fishing weight ) and try to squeeze it through a smaller diameter hole...   Lead doesn't flow like toothpaste from a tube....

Walter,

You do realize, don't you, that the bullet had lost 2 to 3 grains of lead?

How do you think that lead got out of the bullet?

--  MWT 

[Walt Cakebread]

Walter,

You do realize, don't you, that the bullet had lost a small amount of mass?

How do you think that mass got out of the bullet?

--  MWT 

How do you know how much mass the bullet lost?....   Did you weigh and measure it before it was fired?

[Thomas Graves]

How do you know how much mass the bullet lost?....   Did you weigh and measure it before it was fired?

Walter,

Me?  No, I was probably busy helping the evil, evil, evil CIA and FBI do something else that day.

Regardless, you do know that same-caliber ammunition from any single manufacturer weighs almost exactly the same from bullet to bullet, don't you?

Are you aware that the bullet was flattened somewhat on one side near the base, and that the lead was pooched out a bit at the end?

Are you uncomfortable with the statement that, depending on its weight when it was fired, the bullet had lost between 2 and 3 grains of mass?

If so, why?

Are you just being uber-contrarian, like John "You Have No Proof!" Iacoletti?

Pity that.

--  MWT 

[John Iacoletti]

Regardless, you do know that same-caliber ammunition from any single manufacturer weighs almost exactly the same from bullet to bullet, don't you?

You mean like within 2 or 3 grains of each other?

Are you just being uber-contrarian, like John "You Have No Proof!" Iacoletti?

“Tommy said so” should be good enough for anybody.

[Walt Cakebread]

Walter,

Me?  No, I was probably busy helping the evil, evil, evil CIA and FBI do something else that day.

Regardless, you do know that same-caliber ammunition from any single manufacturer weighs almost exactly the same from bullet to bullet, don't you?

Are you aware that the bullet was flattened somewhat on one side near the base, and that the lead was pooched out a bit at the end?

Are you uncomfortable with the statement that, depending on its weight when it was fired, the bullet had lost between 2 and 3 grains of mass?

If so, why?

Are you just being uber-contrarian, like John "You Have No Proof!" Iacoletti?

Pity that.

--  MWT 

you do know that same-caliber ammunition from any single manufacturer weighs almost exactly the same from bullet to bullet, don't you?


Yes, Manufacturing specifications.... Which allows for the bullet to weigh a couple of grains more or less than the specification of 160 grains....

So, how do you know the weight of the bullet before it was fired?

[Thomas Graves]

You mean like within 2 or 3 grains of each other?

Yes!  That must be it!  And the very stable bullet that, before it was deviously switched for CE 399, had entered Kennedy's upper back at about 2100 feet per second, damaged his rib, exited his throat, entered Connally's back, exited his chest, broke his wrist, and ended up shallowly embedded in his thigh MUST have lost oodles and gobs of lead and been mutilated like a Mo-Fo, right, "Mr. Prove It"?

LOL

--  MWT