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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2020, 05:00:51 AM »
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I found this 1943 source for Model 38 Carcano weight of 7 1/2 pounds without the bayonet.

Do I see 7.35 mm? Also, it gives the length as 40 inches.

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Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2020, 05:05:40 AM »
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2020, 05:06:11 AM »


I found this 1943 source for Model 38 Carcano weight of 7 1/2 pounds without the bayonet.

Thanks.

The WC / FBI present 40", 7.5 lb rifle as assassination weapon.

Also present "Oswalds rifle" as part of 100count carton of rifles weighing 750lbs. Including ..rifles, and packaging.

Something doesn't add up.

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2020, 05:24:06 AM »
You think there's some significant weigh difference between a 7.35mm M91/38 and a 6.5mm M91/38? Do tell.

The Handbook also acknowledges the 6.5mm caliber.

You doing anything about it besides being a Smart Aleck?

When I first read it I thought that you were suggesting that I was being a smart aleck.

I doubt that there's a significant weight difference between the 7.35 and the 6.5. I was just questioning the accuracy of the numbers given in that handbook.

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2020, 05:27:05 AM »
The Klein's February ad lists a Carcano at 5 1/2 lbs.

Tell me. Do you think the fellow who assembled the container and the fellow who picked it up had access to a scale that could weigh such weights? Or is it more likely that the customer phoned the shipper and said he was shipping 100 rifles that weighed 7 1/2 lbs each?

The ad was wrong in those particulars (no Carcano weighs 5 1/2 lbs). Also wrong is the illustration. However, Klein's was receiving 40" Carcanos at a dollar over the TS price, and in turn selling the 40" Carcanos for $12.88, the price in the ad.

That would mean the crate weighed 113 lbs.

Order no. and price reflect a 40" Carcano. Do you think Klein's were shipping the illustrated rifle?

Or were they just lax in updating things? It was the Print Age; no faxes or web sites.

More than a tip of the hat.

If you read CE 2562, you will note that the shipper - Lifschutz Fast Freight - lists the shipping weight, on their invoice.
Don't shippers charge by the pound?

The graphic you posted - thanks - shows 36" rifle, $19.95, 5.5 lbs. 40" rifle, 7.5 lbs.

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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2020, 05:29:49 AM »
You think there's some significant weigh difference between a 7.35mm M91/38 and a 6.5mm M91/38? Do tell.

The Handbook also acknowledges the 6.5mm caliber.

You doing anything about it besides being a Smart Aleck?

Just presenting the facts. From FBI and WC.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2020, 05:44:17 AM »
Just presenting the facts. From FBI and WC.

John, would you care to address my response to your#8 reply?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2375.msg74210.html#msg74210

Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2020, 06:01:52 AM »
Irrelevant.
Ad shows only 40" rifle at 7.5 lbs.  Per Mr. Organ.

Immaterial.

Incidentally, what is the premise of your poorly worded Subject?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 11:39:13 AM by Ross Lidell »

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