The real Jack Ruby

[Ted Shields]

Oswald autopsy:

Penetration of liver, spleen, stomach, aorta, diaphragm.

Lots of vital organs and the biggest artery.
Well placed shot, not quite "center mass, as they say. Kind of hard to go for the head, which was moving around.

Ruby began stalking Oswald at 5:00 to 6:00 p.m. He lied about this first encounter. Also about his 8a.m. , Sunday, appearance at DPD, which Ken Rahm - not a conspiracy "kook" (sic) - pointed out.

"Well placed shot"?

Are you claiming he was so good he could guarantee a kill shot through those organs while himself and Oswald were walking?

Nah.

[John Tonkovich]

"Well placed shot"?

Are you claiming he was so good he could guarantee a kill shot through those organs while himself and Oswald were walking?

Nah.

I'm not claiming anything.

He shot Oswald at point blank range. Effective result.

None of the studies you bring up are specific to point blank range gunshots.

[Ted Shields]

I'm not claiming anything.

He shot Oswald at point blank range. Effective result.

None of the studies you bring up are specific to point blank range gunshots.

If the heart and brain are avoided, theres a good chance of survival. Which is why assassins actually shoot people in the heart or the brain!

William McKinley was shot in the abdomen from point blank range and it took him a week to die of gangrene.

James Garfield was shot twice in the back from point blank range and it took him nearly 3 months to die from it.

So, Oswald, the most important assassination in history, apart from the one 48 hours previously, and they're chancing a handgun shot to the gut to silence Oswald?

Does that actually make sense to anyone?

[Bill Chapman]

If the heart and brain are avoided, theres a good chance of survival. Which is why assassins actually shoot people in the heart or the brain!

William McKinley was shot in the abdomen from point blank range and it took him a week to die of gangrene.

James Garfield was shot twice in the back from point blank range and it took him nearly 3 months to die from it.

So, Oswald, the most important assassination in history, apart from the one 48 hours previously, and they're chancing a handgun shot to the gut to silence Oswald?

Does that actually make sense to anyone?

What makes sense is that nobody is going to rely on unstable nutballs like Oswald and Ruby.

Re Garfield, he was hit once in the back and the other bullet grazed his shoulder. They couldn't find the bullet in his back. He likely would have survived his wounds but for infections caused by sloppy doctors in the hunt for the missile.

[John Tonkovich]

If the heart and brain are avoided, theres a good chance of survival. Which is why assassins actually shoot people in the heart or the brain!

William McKinley was shot in the abdomen from point blank range and it took him a week to die of gangrene.

James Garfield was shot twice in the back from point blank range and it took him nearly 3 months to die from it.

So, Oswald, the most important assassination in history, apart from the one 48 hours previously, and they're chancing a handgun shot to the gut to silence Oswald?

Does that actually make sense to anyone?

Oswald was hit in the aorta, according to the autopsy, and also the liver and spleen.

The aorta is the largest artery in the body.

Obviously,  Ruby's shot was very effective.

Again, Ruby lied about his first visit to DPD, Friday,  5 to 6 pm, and his Sunday morning visit as well. This was a "spur of the moment" killing, that he happened to be planning for three days?

[Joffrey van de Wiel]

It is the result that counts: Ruby shot Oswald, who soon thereafter lost consciousness and died at 1.07 p.m.

There was also a group of one hundred members who had voted 100 to nil to kill Oswald while he was being transferred to the County Jail, in addition to other threats:

During the night, between 2:30 and 3 a.m., the local office of the FBI and the sheriff's office received telephone calls from an unidentified man who warned that a committee had decided "to kill the man that killed the President." Shortly after, an FBI agent notified the Dallas police of the anonymous threat. The police department and ultimately Chief Curry were informed of both threats.

- Warren Report page 209.

More on the death threats in this report by Officer McCoy, page 537-539:

https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Decker_Ex_5323.pdf

[John Iacoletti]

If the heart and brain are avoided, theres a good chance of survival. Which is why assassins actually shoot people in the heart or the brain!

William McKinley was shot in the abdomen from point blank range and it took him a week to die of gangrene.

James Garfield was shot twice in the back from point blank range and it took him nearly 3 months to die from it.

Are you suggesting that Czolgosz and Guiteau weren’t trying to kill their targets?

Lincoln lived for 9 hours. What was Booth thinking?

[Ted Shields]

Oswald was hit in the aorta, according to the autopsy, and also the liver and spleen.

The aorta is the largest artery in the body.

Obviously,  Ruby's shot was very effective.

Again, Ruby lied about his first visit to DPD, Friday,  5 to 6 pm, and his Sunday morning visit as well. This was a "spur of the moment" killing, that he happened to be planning for three days?

No Ruby admitted that if he had've had a good shot he would've shot Oswald on Friday but didn't want to hit the police.

So Ruby was such a good shot, he knew that he could hit Oswald in thew aorta? A 3.0 cm2 target?

What makes sense is that nobody is going to rely on unstable nutballs like Oswald and Ruby.

Exactly. Yet people believe "they" relied on these two to pull off the biggest conspiracy in history.

No one can answer who was supposed to silence Ruby. And why didn't they?