Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.

[Colin Crow]

I've answered that question before. Nobody knows who noticed the paper sack first. A lot of them found it there. None of them could say for certain who found it first.

Many of them either claimed to have found it first or claimed some one else did.

Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.

Can you have it both ways?

So how do we reconcile this?

 Mr. BELIN. I will now hand you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit 626 and ask you to state if you know what this is, and also appears to be marked as Commission Exhibit 142.
Mr. DAY. This is the sack found on the sixth floor in the southeast corner of the building on November 22, 1963.
Mr. BELIN. Do you have any identification on that to so indicate?
Mr. DAY. It has my name on it, and it also has other writing that I put on there for the information of the FBI.
Mr. BELIN. Could you read what you wrote on there?
Mr. DAY. "Found next to the sixth floor window gun fired from. May have been used to carry gun. Lieutenant J. C. Day."
Mr. BELIN. When did you write that?
Mr. DAY. I wrote that at the time the sack was found before it left our possession.
Mr. BELIN. All right, anything else that you wrote on there?
Mr. DAY. When the sack was released on November 22 to the FBI about 11:45 p.m., I put further information to the FBI reading as follows: "FBI: Has been dusted with metallic magnetic powder on outside only. Inside has not been processed. Lieut J. C. Day."

Did Day write that on the bag at the time the bag was found? Did he write that before he left the TSBD with the rifle around 2pm or after he arrived back about an hour later? Was it written on the bag at police HQ or in the TSBD?

[Jerry Freeman]

If the rifle isn't used the oil will remain on it for years....And the TSBD rifle had not been used except for the one shot through the window of walker's house.

Not sure there [you know that] but...Either the FBI lied about [to the exclusion stuff] or that clunker did fire CE 399 into some mattresses or the like.

[Tim Nickerson]

Many of them either claimed to have found it first or claimed some one else did.

Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.

Can you have it both ways?

So how do we reconcile this?

 Mr. BELIN. I will now hand you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit 626 and ask you to state if you know what this is, and also appears to be marked as Commission Exhibit 142.
Mr. DAY. This is the sack found on the sixth floor in the southeast corner of the building on November 22, 1963.
Mr. BELIN. Do you have any identification on that to so indicate?
Mr. DAY. It has my name on it, and it also has other writing that I put on there for the information of the FBI.
Mr. BELIN. Could you read what you wrote on there?
Mr. DAY. "Found next to the sixth floor window gun fired from. May have been used to carry gun. Lieutenant J. C. Day."
Mr. BELIN. When did you write that?
Mr. DAY. I wrote that at the time the sack was found before it left our possession.
Mr. BELIN. All right, anything else that you wrote on there?
Mr. DAY. When the sack was released on November 22 to the FBI about 11:45 p.m., I put further information to the FBI reading as follows: "FBI: Has been dusted with metallic magnetic powder on outside only. Inside has not been processed. Lieut J. C. Day."

Did Day write that on the bag at the time the bag was found? Did he write that before he left the TSBD with the rifle around 2pm or after he arrived back about an hour later? Was it written on the bag at police HQ or in the TSBD?

I would suggest to you that when Day said "time the sack was found" he wasn't being precise. His "before it left our possession" makes it obvious that he wasn't being precise.

[Colin Crow]

I would suggest to you that when Day said "time the sack was found" he wasn't being precise. His "before it left our possession" makes it obvious that he wasn't being precise.

I would accept after the sack was found. Sort of obvious really, he surely couldn’t have written it before it was "found" or after it left his possession could he? However he said "at the time". Obfuscation at best. Any other member like to take a punt at who the discoverer or CE142 was? So far we have everyone and no one.

[Jerry Freeman]

When I oil my guns...I oil the entire gun action and barrel because the outside of a weapon is also susceptible to rust and corrosion. Any idiot should know this.
None the less... I contend that if the rifle was dis-assembled... then naturally..even these moving parts would have been exposed and some traces of oil would have been found on the paper somewhere.

Excessive oiling of moving parts can lead to gumming and cause dirt to stick. A drop applied through a nozzle at a few key points is recommended, and some moving parts need no oil. 

Qualifying rapidly for my above statement. No-- I don't drench guns in oil and I didn't suggest that...so we can cut the strawman crap. The bolt handle is one moving part that still requires light cleaning and any idiot knows that the outside of the barrel is not a moving part.
Lt. J C Day testified that he did not find any fingerprints on the paper bag. However, the FBI miraculously did....even after it was contaminated with dust and everybody else's fingerprints. 
This is qualified by this post--

Nobody knows who noticed the paper sack first. A lot of them found it there. None of them could say for certain who found it first.

Now--- where is that stated in evidence? A sack on a broom handle was walked out the door like no one had touched it.

  

[Walt Cakebread]

Qualifying rapidly for my above statement. No-- I don't drench guns in oil and I didn't suggest that...so we can cut the strawman crap. The bolt handle is one moving part that still requires light cleaning and any idiot knows that the outside of the barrel is not a moving part.
Lt. J C Day testified that he did not find any fingerprints on the paper bag. However, the FBI miraculously did....even after it was contaminated with dust and everybody else's fingerprints. 
This is qualified by this post-- Now--- where is that stated in evidence? A sack on a broom handle was walked out the door like no one had touched it.

 

  A sack on a broom handle was walked out the door like no one had touched it..... 

A sack ----walked out of the door ...That must have been a startling sight!

Really??   The sack had legs??       Sorry Colin.... couldn't resist.

But seriously .... Any intelligent person can know that the bag was ALLEGEDLY  found doubled over and lying on the floor in the corner of the imaginary "Sniper's Nest" .... And the paper bag that Montgomery carried from the building most certainly is NOT doubled....

Question:.... I know the bag in the photo can't be directly measured from the photo.....  BUT....If the width of the bag at the midpoint could be ascertained....Would that provide a scale to determine the length of the bag Mongomery is carrying??

[Bill Chapman]

The 'Everything-is-either-faked-planted-or-altered' Freeman said:

'The bolt handle is one moving part that still requires light cleaning and any idiot knows that the outside of the barrel is not a moving part."

any idiot knows
Congrats for admitting to being an idiot
the outside of the barrel is not a moving part
A number of witnesses with eyes raised near Elm & Houston would disagree with that

[Walt Cakebread]

Everything-is-either-faked-planted-or-altered Freeman said:
any idiot knows
Congrats for admitting to being an idiot
the outside of the barrel is not a moving part
A number of witnesses with eyes raised near Elm & Houston would disagree with that

A number of witnesses with eyes raised near Elm & Houston would disagree with that

Please identify these "number of eyewitnesses"........