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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #72 on: February 29, 2020, 07:35:25 PM »
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I don't see anything here that supports the conclusion that it is somehow "impossible" for the folds to have been created when Oswald smuggled it to Paine's house. 
Who told you that happened? Where is the evidence?

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Online John Iacoletti

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« Reply #73 on: February 29, 2020, 08:33:19 PM »
If a two-foot-long bag, I would expect most people would just take it into the front seat for the trip.

The thing is, people tend to make assumptions that fit their existing biases. It’s human nature.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #74 on: February 29, 2020, 08:35:31 PM »
I don't see anything here that supports the conclusion that it is somehow "impossible" for the folds to have been created when Oswald smuggled it to Paine's house.  In addition, wasn't the bag found BEFORE the DPD heard the story about Oswald's bag from Frazier?  I don't recall the timeline on that but Frazier left the TSBD and wasn't interviewed about Oswald until later.  If so, that would have made the scenario that you suggest impossible (i.e. the DPD hears the bag story from Frazier then go searching for a bag).  There are pictures of the bag coming out of the building between 2 and 3PM.

Supposedly Linnie Mae Randle told the police about the bag when they got to the Paine’s house. But it’s conceivable that she talked to her brother before he went to the hospital to visit his estranged stepfather.

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Offline Peter Goth

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #75 on: February 29, 2020, 09:36:03 PM »
I think before you start applying cartoon shadows and handing out lollipops,

You need to consider the date at which that picture was taken.
Was it even taken on the 22nd?

That picture is not very clear.
Can you really ascertain our bag from what looks like box flaps and packing paper?
And why has no one ever recorded that location before on this important piece of evidence?
 

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #76 on: February 29, 2020, 11:12:50 PM »
Supposedly Linnie Mae Randle told the police about the bag when they got to the Paine’s house. But it’s conceivable that she talked to her brother before he went to the hospital to visit his estranged stepfather.

Now we are getting somewhere. Consider that Frazier testified that LMR knew about Oswald coming to Irving to get curtain rods. He to.d her on Thursday evening. When she tells Adamcek about Oswald the next day there is no record of that fact. The curtain rods story only appears later by Frazier.

The timeline for Frazier's movements that day are important. He obviously went home before going to visit the abusive step father in hospital. I wonder what Buell and Linnie-May talked about before she ventured to the Paine's that day.

Day and Studebaker had the rifle at the first floor wrapping table before 2pm. Standard crime scene procedure to wrap evidence in paper.

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2020, 03:57:42 PM »
I think before you start applying cartoon shadows and handing out lollipops,

You need to consider the date at which that picture was taken.
Was it even taken on the 22nd?

That picture is not very clear.
Can you really ascertain our bag from what looks like box flaps and packing paper?
And why has no one ever recorded that location before on this important piece of evidence?

I can’t say that I know for certain what day the photo was taken. But I can say that what you term the “cartoon” shadows are computer generated images which are scientifically based on the architecture of the TSBD and the position of the sun at the specific times indicated on 11/22/63.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #78 on: March 02, 2020, 12:40:13 PM »
I can’t say that I know for certain what day the photo was taken. But I can say that what you term the “cartoon” shadows are computer generated images which are scientifically based on the architecture of the TSBD and the position of the sun at the specific times indicated on 11/22/63.

yea, sure it is.  :D
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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2020, 12:50:34 PM »
yea sure it is >> :D

I invite disbelievers to create their own model and try it for themselves. The computer program is free and available online. Actual measurements of critical items the TSBD were generously provided by Steven Fagan, curator for the Sixth Floor Museum. These were shared by Jerry Organ in another thread on this site. It does require a lot of patience and tedious work to create the structure model. But it is a valuable tool.

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« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2020, 12:50:34 PM »