Shells, rifle, SN... Who?

[Walt Cakebread]

Maybe because the Alyea film isn't the be all and end all of everything that happened on the 6th floor that day?

So is Brennan.  But you don't just take his word for it.

Maybe because the Alyea film isn't the be all and end all of everything that happened on the 6th floor that day?

That's true...And I've never said that it is the be all and end all of everything that happened on the sixth floor that day......But it is solid photographic evidence that the rifle that Boone and Weitzman discovered definitely was a Model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.   And Alyea's film is supported by the photos that were taken as Day left the TSBD carrying a Mannlicher Carcano.

If your suggesting that a mauser was found there on the sixth floor, can you provide one scintilla of solid evidence to support that idea


So is Brennan.  But you don't just take his word for it.

HUH??    I have no idea what you're referring to.....   Brennan wasn't even in the TSBD....

[John Iacoletti]

That's true...And I've never said that it is the be all and end all of everything that happened on the sixth floor that day......But it is solid photographic evidence that the rifle that Boone and Weitzman discovered definitely was a Model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.

I'm still waiting for you to point out Boone and Weitzman in the Alyea footage.

If your suggesting that a mauser was found there on the sixth floor, can you provide one scintilla of solid evidence to support that idea

Statements from 3 deputies who all said they saw a Mauser.  That's evidence.

So is Brennan.  But you don't just take his word for it.

HUH??    I have no idea what you're referring to.....   Brennan wasn't even in the TSBD....

You make a point of Weitzman retracting his original statement to discredit his original statement, but Brennan also retracted his original statement that he could not make an identification in the lineup.  Do you believe Brennan's retraction?

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm still waiting for you to point out Boone and Weitzman in the Alyea footage.

Statements from 3 deputies who all said they saw a Mauser.  That's evidence.


You make a point of Weitzman retracting his original statement to discredit his original statement, but Brennan also retracted his original statement that he could not make an identification in the lineup.  Do you believe Brennan's retraction?

I'm still waiting for you to point out Boone and Weitzman in the Alyea footage.

I believe they are near Roger Craig in the background behind Fritz as he is filmed looking at the Carcano as Day holds it.  ( why is this important??)

Statements from 3 deputies who all said they saw a Mauser.  That's evidence.

No, that's not evidence ....Particularly when they retracted their statements.

Brennan also retracted his original statement that he could not make an identification in the lineup.

This kind crap makes me angry..... Weitzman and Boone corrected their mistaken identification almost immediately , whereas Brennan changed his mind when he appeared before LBJ's Cover up committee....   

By the time that Brennan appeared before the WC he was ready to swear that he saw the Joker ( from Batman) if that's what Henry Wade and the DPD wanted him to say.

[John Iacoletti]

I believe they are near Roger Craig in the background behind Fritz as he is filmed looking at the Carcano as Day holds it.  ( why is this important??)

Because you claimed that they could be seen in the footage.  I want to know where.

Statements from 3 deputies who all said they saw a Mauser.  That's evidence.

No, that's not evidence ....Particularly when they retracted their statements.

Craig didn't.  And, yes, it's still evidence.  They said it.

This kind crap makes me angry..... Weitzman and Boone corrected their mistaken identification almost immediately , whereas Brennan changed his mind when he appeared before LBJ's Cover up committee....   

What does "almost immediately" mean?  Brennan "changed his mind" a few days later after a few friendly visits from the FBI.

[Walt Cakebread]

Because you claimed that they could be seen in the footage.  I want to know where.

Craig didn't.  And, yes, it's still evidence.  They said it.

What does "almost immediately" mean?  Brennan "changed his mind" a few days later after a few friendly visits from the FBI.

Ok John....Let's get this down in B&W.....  You believe that the rifle that Weitzman and Boone discovered was actually a 7.65 mauser.

Do I have that correct?

[Gary Craig]

I'm still waiting for you to point out Boone and Weitzman in the Alyea footage.

I believe they are near Roger Craig in the background behind Fritz as he is filmed looking at the Carcano as Day holds it.  ( why is this important??)

Statements from 3 deputies who all said they saw a Mauser.  That's evidence.

No, that's not evidence ....Particularly when they retracted their statements.

Brennan also retracted his original statement that he could not make an identification in the lineup.

This kind crap makes me angry..... Weitzman and Boone corrected their mistaken identification almost immediately , whereas Brennan changed his mind when he appeared before LBJ's Cover up committee....   

By the time that Brennan appeared before the WC he was ready to swear that he saw the Joker ( from Batman) if that's what Henry Wade and the DPD wanted him to say.

"No, that's not evidence ....Particularly when they retracted their statements."

A notarized affidavit that's been signed and sworn to by it's author is evidence.
The only reason their feet weren't held to the fire is because there was no trial and no defense attorney to grill them.

"Weitzman and Boone corrected their mistaken identification almost immediately"

A lot of mistakes seemed to have been corrected after Ozzie was Lynched and everybody knew there wouldn't be a trial.

Go along to get along.

[Walt Cakebread]

"No, that's not evidence ....Particularly when they retracted their statements."

A notarized affidavit that's been signed and sworn to by it's author is evidence.
The only reason their feet weren't held to the fire is because there was no trial and no defense attorney to grill them.

"Weitzman and Boone corrected their mistaken identification almost immediately"

A lot of mistakes seemed to have been corrected after Ozzie was Lynched and everybody knew there wouldn't be a trial.

Go along to get along.

OK Gary, Let's get this in B&W..... You believe that the rifle that Weitzman and Boone discovered was a 7.65 mauser.   Do I have that right?

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm still waiting for you to point out Boone and Weitzman in the Alyea footage.

Statements from 3 deputies who all said they saw a Mauser.  That's evidence.


You make a point of Weitzman retracting his original statement to discredit his original statement, but Brennan also retracted his original statement that he could not make an identification in the lineup.  Do you believe Brennan's retraction?

Why are you dodging and dancing around?     If you know the truth, then let's hear it.    My sole objective here is to determine the facts.

I'll admit that Sayer's FBI report has my head spinning......But, It does seem to indicate that Weitzman was given a 7.65 mauser to examine and describe for the record.   What I want to know is WHERE DID this mauser come from, and what was the motive for getting Weitzman to describe that mauser?

Is it possible that Sayer's was exhausted when he typed up that report and mixed information from Weitzman's affidavit with the information he had obtained when he interviewed Weitzman?