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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 04:02:04 PM »
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If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it, the critics would have fallen down laughing at the childish lyrics.  But because Dylan wrote it, it must be genius.  Some guys don't know when to call it quits.

Those lyrics show that not unlike Picasso, the guy who used to be Bob Dylan left his worst work 'til last*... not to mention that he's actually talking more than singing, and WTF happened to the harmonica?

*Oh, the irony:
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last

For the times they are a-changin'.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 04:57:17 PM »
I guess Roger called it quits.

Says a guy calling himself “Richard Smith”.

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 05:13:06 PM »
Those lyrics show that like Picasso, the guy who used to be Bob Dylan left his worst work 'til last* Not to mention he's actually talking more than singing, and WTF happened to the harmonica?

*Oh, the irony:
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last

For the times they are a-changin'.

Yes, it's pretty laughable like the third runner up in a write Bob Dylan song parody:


It was a dark day in Dallas, November '63
A day that will live on in infamy
President Kennedy was a-ridin' high
Good day to be livin' and a good day to die
Being led to the slaughter like a sacrificial lamb

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 06:06:17 PM »
I'm sure that Bob Dylan welcomes the songwriting advice from "Richard Smith".

Online Gerry Down

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2020, 02:39:11 AM »
Kinda sad that Bob Dylan is making money from a murder. He's not adding anything new to the JFK case, only looking for attention IMO.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2020, 03:09:50 AM »
Kinda sad that Bob Dylan is making money from a murder. He's not adding anything new to the JFK case, only looking for attention IMO.

How is Dylan making money from an unreleased song?

And how about all those books for and against the lone nut theory? Money played no part, do you think?

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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2020, 04:57:13 AM »
Murder Most Foul

Even the title sucks. Calling the assassination a mere 'murder' is rather odd, I find: Just how important does one have to be in order to qualify as having been 'assassinated'?

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Bob Dylan Accused of Plagiarizing Nobel Lecture From SparkNotes
Slate writer Andrea Pitzer uncovers striking similarities between musician’s thoughts on ‘Moby-Dick,’ entry on CliffsNotes-like site
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bob-dylan-accused-of-plagiarizing-nobel-lecture-from-sparknotes-198150/

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*As Pitzer points out, Dylan’s Nobel lecture does not mark the first time he’s been accused of plagiarism. He’s long borrowed lyrics from other sources, with his 2001 album Love and Theft drawing criticism for lyrics seemingly culled from Junichi Saga’s book Confessions of a Yakuza and Henry Timrod’s Civil War poetry. Even Dylan’s paintings from his 2011 exhibit, “The Asia Series,” came under fire for their similarities to well-known photographs taken by Henri Cartier-Bresson and Léon Busy.

In a 2012 interview with Rolling Stone, Dylan responded to the accusations of plagiarism pertaining to Love and Theft. “I’m working within my art form,” he said. “It’s that simple. I work within the rules and limitations of it. There are authoritarian figures that can explain that kind of art form better to you than I can. It’s called songwriting. It has to do with melody and rhythm, and then after that, anything goes. You make everything yours. We all do it.”
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Re: Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2020, 06:57:03 PM »
I love Dylan and think he is by far the greatest artist of the rock era but he is a narrative over evidence and proof type of guy.  He always has been. I am not surprised at all that he thinks there was a conspiracy.  He always gets it wrong.

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