What's stopping the CIA from falsifying the documents they've yet to release?

[Tom Scully]

If, as conspiracy theorists advocate, several items related to the JFK assassination have been altered such as:

- JFKs X-rays
- the Zapruder film
- eyewitness reports

Then what's stopping something as simple as an a4 sheet of paper from being forged? I think i could almost make a good forgery myself using photoshop. So what is the point in even chasing after these documents such as Jeff Morley is doing as part of the Morley v. CIA case (where he is looking for the release of CIA documents related to the 1963 DRE CIA handler George Joannides)?

https://fair.org/extra/debunking-the-debunkers-of-october-surprise/
Debunking the Debunkers of October Surprise |
Mar 1, 2013 - Unbeknownst to the Carter administration, Cyrus Hashemi had ties to William Casey through a longtime Casey associate, John Shaheen.

During WWII, John Shaheen and Elroy McCaw of OSS Special Projects were the "brains" behind:

https://tenwatts.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-cia-and-wins.html
Dec 31, 2014 - John Elroy McCaw, worked on OSS Special Projects known as operations Aphrodite, Simmons, and Javaman. He worked with OSSers John  Shaheen and Jim Rand...

https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/remembering-death-lt-joe-kennedy-jr-and-america’s-first-combat-drones
Remembering the Death of Lt. Joe Kennedy Jr. and America’s First Combat Drones

Aug 19, 2014 - Ensign Joseph P. Kennedy Jr., USN about two years before his death. ... Doolittle's Project Aphrodite (Army) and Anvil (Navy) represented the ...

Reagan and John Shaheen were both born in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#Early_life
Ronald Wilson Reagan was born on February 6, 1911, in an apartment on the second floor of a commercial building in Tampico, Illinois. ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampico,_Illinois
Tampico /ˈtæm.pɪ.koʊ/ is a village located in Tampico Township, Whiteside County, Illinois, United States next to Rock Falls and Sterling IL. As of the 2010 census the village had a total population of 790, up from 772 at the 2000 census.

Barbara Walters' longtime ABC 20/20 partner, Hugh Downs, was married to John Shaheen's sister, Ruth.....

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/azcentral/obituary.aspx?n=ruth-downs&pid=184794130
Downs, Ruth Shaheen
The beloved wife of broadcaster, Hugh Downs, passed away on Tuesday March 28, 2017 at the age of 95, at their home in Scottsdale, AZ. Her husband was by her side as she peacefully embarked on the "next great adventure," as she referred to Death. Ruth Downs was born in Illinois in the autumn of 1921 to Mike and Sadie Shaheen, who taught their only daughter she could do anything her three brothers could do if she was willing to work for it; .....and to annually bring together her own descendants and those of her beloved brothers John, Raymond, and Richard Shaheen.

http://archive.is/SA6W1#selection-495.0-517.56
My Response to Robert Parry's April 9, 2014 Report on Bi-Parisan Hypocrisy in Congress Suppressing Truth of 1980 October Surprise
http://newspaperarchive.com/us/illinois/sterling/sterling-daily-gazette/...
"...while H James Rand of Cleveland, Ohio was best man."

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https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/09/reagan-bush-ties-to-iran-hostage-crisis/
Reagan-Bush Ties to Iran-Hostage Crisis
April 9, 2014 • 6 Comments
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Comments
Tom Scully  - April 10, 2014 at 04:20
Thank you, Mr. Parry. I have quoted and linked your reporting on The October Surprise with research I posted yesterday. My focus is on the connection between
Casey’s friend John M Shaheen and 1958 defector to the Soviet Union, Robert Webster’s employer, H James Rand. Shaheen married in May, 1951. His best man was Rand. Shaheen’s sister Ruth was the wife of Hugh Downs. Shaheen and his bride honeymooned on Marathon Key in FL in a group organized by the next door Cleveland neighbor of Shaheen’s and Rand’s OSS friend, Dan T. Moore, brother of Drew Pearson’s wife, Luvie Moore Abell Pearson. Dan Moore’s neighbor was Yale Bonesman, Dr. George W. Crile, Jr., the father of the George Crile who worked as a journalist for Pearson and Jack Anderson and then for 31 years at CBS TV network and 60 Minutes. A CIA document in Bill Simpich’s new book describes a plan in 1960 by Moore to go to Moscow with Rand to attempt to smuggle Robert Webster out in a car left in Moscow by Rand Development Co.
Coincidence that all of these journalists, save the deceased Pearson, neglected to report on their own familiarity with John M Shaheen, or grave ethics breech?
Was Shaheen involved in a defector program with H James Rand?

http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,10365.msg304167.html
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Wouldn't the CIA have suppressed this, if it was their perogative, but seems not to have? IOW, consider that some of your readers are better informed than you and it is possible you are not asking the relevant questions?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/jfk-assassination-john-mccone-warren-commission-cia-213197?curator=MediaREDEF
Yes, the CIA Director Was Part of the JFK Assassination Cover-Up
John McCone was long suspected of withholding information from the Warren Commission. Now even the CIA says he did.

By PHILIP SHENON October 06, 2015....

And why was Morley's pursuit more troubling than this predecessor of Joannides, especially considering how little we still know about him and his controversial, close friend?

It does seem the CIA really, really did not want to inform the HSCA of much, at all. I've always wondered why Mr. Morley does not make all that much of the judge who seemed impervious to four successful appeals by Morley's attorney. That judge, appointed to the federal, bench by GHW Bush's son, happened to be instrumental in shutting down the October Surprise, congressional inquiry in 1992, along with Bush family

"go to guy" (see 911 inquiry) Rep. Lee Hamilton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_H._Hamilton

Who Is Judge Richard Leon? – https://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/09/who-is-judge-richard-leon/
Nov 9, 2011 - On Monday, U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon handed the tobacco ... Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana, to extend the deadline for several months.

Judge Leon's Dirty Climb to the Bench – https://consortiumnews.com/2013/12/17/judge-leons-dirty-climb-to-the-bench/
Dec 17, 2013 - U.S. District Judge Richard Leon is winning kudos across the political ... Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana, to extend the deadline for several months.

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/13/us/house-inquiry-finds-no-evidence-of-deal-on-hostages-in-1980.html

....The summary of the report harshly criticizes another principal source of many of the allegations, an Israeli named Ari Ben-Menashe. Mr. Ben-Menashe has told several reporters that he was present at a meeting in October 1980 in Paris between Iranian representatives and people from the Reagan campaign. Mr. Ben-Menashe has suggested at various times that George Bush, the Republican candidate for Vice President at the time, was at the Paris meeting. The panel said it had conclusive evidence that Mr. Ben-Mehashe was not in Paris then.

The panel, led by Representatives Lee Hamilton, Democrat of Indiana, and Henry J. Hyde, Republican of Illinois, had earlier released an interim report dismissing the theory that Mr. Bush attended any meetings in Paris in 1980.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-unbelievable-life-of-ari-ben-menashe
Ari Ben-Menashe's unbelievable life | National Postnationalpost.com › News › Canada
Nov 18, 2011 - The unbelievable life of Ari Ben-Menashe ... He went to trial and was acquitted; a jury accepted his defence, that he was acting on orders from ...

Ben-Menashe Case Eyes Bomb Residue – https://consortiumnews.com/2012/12/05/ben-menashe-case-turns-on-bomb-samples/
Dec 5, 2012 - In fall 1990, a New York jury acquitted Ben-Menashe after concluding that he indeed was working on official Israeli business in his transactions ...

https://www.laweekly.com/crack-cop/
CRACK COP
NICK SCHOUJULY 18, 2001

.....Critics have long accused the CIA of using drug traffickers to raise cash for Ronald Reagan’s 1980s war against the Nicaraguan Sandinista government. Now, recently released FBI documents show that a former top agency official met throughout that period with Ronald J. Lister, an ex–Laguna Beach police detective who claimed to be the link between the South American cocaine trade, the Nicaraguan contras and the CIA.

The documents — released in response to the Weekly’s 1997 Freedom of Information request — concern Lister and William Earl Nelson, a vice president for security for the Irvine-based construction giant Fluor Corp. Nelson’s previous job: deputy director of operations for the CIA. The heavily redacted memos do not substantiate claims that the CIA was involved in drug dealing, but elaborate on troubling relationships first exposed in “Dark Alliance,” a 1996 investigative report by Gary Webb, then a reporter at the San Jose Mercury News.

How Lister and Nelson met isn’t clear, because of government censors. But the documents do show that Nelson told FBI agents he met with Lister three to four times a year until 1985 and discussed various business ventures, including one in Central America.

books.google.com
Kill the Messenger (Movie Tie-In Edition): How the CIA's Crack-Cocaine ... Page 179
By Nick Schou 

[Ross Lidell]

I'd say any relevant incriminating documents were faked/destroyed back in 1964.

Obvious. Too obvious for Conspiracy Theorists.

[Tom Scully]

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19022-william-earl-nelson/?tab=comments#comment-261434
Tom Scully - Posted October 15, 2012 (edited)

Arlen Specter, he did as instructed. May his name and reputation live on, in infamy.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/27/us/no-knowledge-of-drug-link-ex-guerrilla-leader-testifies.html
No Knowledge of Drug Link, Ex-Guerrilla Leader Testifies

Published: November 27, 1996

Senator Arlen Specter, the Pennsylvania Republican who is chairman of the Intelligence Committee, convened the hearing to examine reports in The San Jose Mercury News that the proliferation of crack in the United States in the 1980's could be traced to two Nicaraguan dealers who worked with the rebels.

Those articles have led to rumors, which have been denied in Washington, that the C.I.A. either supported the drug trafficking as a fund-raising mechanism for the rebels or did nothing to stop it.

The hearing was interrupted for several minutes when several members of the audience accused the panel of ignoring evidence or refusing to call the right witnesses.

''People are dying!'' one man shouted. ''We need answers.''

Mr. Specter kept the police to remove the protesters, who were quieted when he permitted Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California, newly elected chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, to question the witnesses.

Mr. Specter said one of the drug dealers, Mr. Blandon, had told the committee in a closed session on Monday that he was recruited in 1981 by Juan Norwin Meneses Canterero to sell cocaine in California to raise money for the contras.

''Mr. Blandon stated that he had never had any contact with the C.I.A. and that the C.I.A. was not involved in his drug-trafficking business in any way,'' Mr. Specter said. ....

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=100555#relPageId=2

https://www.laweekly.com/crack-cop/

FBI memos released to the Weekly show ties of convicted dealer to former CIA official

By Nick Schou Wednesday, Jul 18 2001

....Wilker is identified in corporate paperwork as an employee of another Newport Beach company, Intersect Inc. His current whereabouts are unknown, but the firm’s vice president, former CIA agent John Vandewerker, said Wilker had traveled to El Salvador with Lister, and that either Lister or Wilker had helped him apply for a job with Nelson at Fluor Corp.

During his FBI interrogation, Nelson claimed Lister had also applied for a job with Fluor. “He was never offered a job,” states the FBI memo. The next sentence was â censored by the FBI, but the memo continues, “Nelson thought Fluor might be able to use his [Lister’s] company” — an apparent reference to Pyramid. “Nelson said [Lister] started traveling overseas, Lebanon and Central America, and he always had some scheme that never materialized.”

By 1985, according to voluminous law-enforcement records, Lister, along with Nicaraguan exiles Norwin Meneses and Danilo Blandon, had established a lucrative cocaine network throughout California. Lister kept Blandon well-stocked with surveillance gear and high-tech weapons: police scanners, Mack 10s, Uzis, even grenade launchers. Blandon said he passed the equipment on to his South-Central L.A. connection, “Freeway” Ricky Ross. Using Lister’s gear to avoid police detection, Ross emerged as the region’s most notorious crack-cocaine trafficker.

The 1998 OIG report cites an FBI memo from the same era concerning an informant who overheard Lister bragging over drinks that he worked for Oliver North, who directed the Reagan administration’s secret contra arms-supply network.

OIG investigators produced no evidence to support or contradict that claim. But an “Operation Homeport” code sheet found among North’s notes, which is available on microfiche at any public libary, shows that, perhaps coincidentally, he typed the word “Lister” as the code word for “advisers” — on a list that includes code words for everything from “missiles” and “grenades” to “Lebanon” and “hostages.”

Even as the FBI investigated Lister for his mysterious Iran-contra–era arms deals — an investigation that apparently led the FBI straight to Nelson — narcotics agents were zeroing in on the Blandon-Lister-Ross network. A separate FBI memo from that time shows that the FBI was particularly interested in Lister’s 1984 purchase of his Mission Viejo home — for $374,000 in cash.

The FBI memo released to the Weekly also shows that while the bureau was investigating Lister, Nelson had been coaching him on his upcoming grand-jury testimony. “He [Lister] then told of his meeting with the FBI and that he had been subpoenaed before the grand jury in San Francisco,” the FBI memo states. “He told Nelson he was terrified. Nelson said go . . . [Lister] admitted being stupid and that he had done a dumb thing. Nelson said [Lister] left and then called back after his grand-jury appearance and said he really did well.” The FBI memo makes no mention of Lister’s drug dealing, but shows that Nelson told his FBI interrogators that during a March 1985 meeting with Lister, the former Laguna cop begged him for help.

“I did a dumb thing because of greed,” Lister told Nelson. What Lister meant is unclear — the next seven lines of the FBI memo are blacked out on national-security grounds. But Nelson’s response is intact: He told the FBI he informed Lister there was no way the CIA could help him.

Inexplicably — that is, assuming Lister never had any connection to the CIA — Nelson made telephone calls to at least one other former CIA agent on Lister’s behalf. “Nelson told [Lister] no one could help him, including the CIA,” the memo states. “Nelson told [Lister] he had discussed his problem with another retired CIA agent and that no one could help him until he cleared himself with the FBI. Nelson said he told [Lister] he no longer cared to continue their relationship and he has not heard from him since.”

Nelson retired from Fluor in 1985. Lister continued dealing cocaine until 1989, when he began working as a DEA informant. Two years later, he was sentenced to 97 months in prison. Lister appealed, asserting that as a government witness, he had testified before two federal grand juries about a “major Central American cartel” and his “activities in Central America concerning certain key figures from Nicaragua alleged to have been involved in the Iran-contra scandal.”

It’s not clear what happened to the notes Lister says he gave investigators or to his testimony, but he clearly put on quite a show. According to the 1998 U.S. Justice Department OIG report, “An FBI special agent was convinced that Lister [and] Blandon . . . were connected to the CIA.”

After completing a drug-treatment program, he walked out of prison in 1996, three years early. His whereabouts are unknown, and he has refused repeated requests to share his story with the press. Nelson, Lister’s “big CIA contact” at Fluor Corp. in Irvine, died six years ago in Corona del Mar. Fluor officials refused to comment for this story but have denied that Fluor had any business in Central America during the 1980s.

Tom Crispell, of the CIA’s public-affairs office, said the agency has already denied any involvement with Lister. “This individual [Nelson] had been retired from the agency for a number of years, and we’re not in a position to comment on his private life or conversations he had in his private life,” Crispell remarked.

Gary Webb, who left the Mercury News shortly after the editor ran a front-page critique of the “Dark Alliance” series, finds the FBI memos curious. “Now we know that Lister was meeting with Nelson, and that the grand-jury investigation was somehow tied into this,” said Webb. “What we don’t know is how Lister even knew Nelson, why Nelson would continue to meet with [a so-called] bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns artist, and why anyone would even consider helping Lister once he cleared himself with the FBI.”

The documents are also mute on perhaps the most disturbing mystery of all: What kind of “business” relationship could Nelson, a retired CIA deputy director, possibly have had with Lister, a drug-dealing, gun-running “security consultant,” and D’Aubuisson, the leader of El Salvador’s death squads?

[Gerry Down]

Obvious. Too obvious for Conspiracy Theorists.

I mean, can you imagine Morley spending $250,000+ only to get fake documents?