Oswald Swallower Nightmare Questions

[Allan Fritzke]

You are correct.  My bad!  But he still defected and wanted Russian Citizenship which is a side note.    After serving as a marine for 3 years?,  you would hardly expect someone to want to become a citizen of another nation!  What drove this man to do that or was he part of someone else's purpose is the question.  Did he think he could be some James Bond type agent and work undercover?    Certainly a peculiar situation!

https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/01/08/lee-harvey-oswalds-request-for-soviet-citizenship/
 

....At present I am a citizen of the United States of America.

I want citizenship because; I am a communist and a worker, I have lived in a decadent capitalist society where the workers  are slaves.

I am twenty years old, I have completed three years  in the United States Marine Corps, I served with the occupation forces in Japan, I have seen American military imperialism in all its forms,

I do not want to return to any country outside of the Soviet Union.

I am writing to give up my American citizenship and assume the responsibilities of a Soviet citizen....

[Jerry Freeman]

  But he still defected and wanted Russian Citizenship which is a side note.   

It was all for show.
In this fake diary of his 'Oswald' wrote that the Kommisars came and asked him to become Soviet citizen.
Something that would never happen. What a pile of gavno!
The Fowler link...  https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10673#relPageId=233&tab=page
The written pages here...  https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339322/m1/1/

[Joe Elliott]

Since the Oswald Swallowers know everything, maybe they can answer some simple questions for the crazy CT's.

You should not insult others on this forum. Should Duncan be informed? I’ll leave it to you. Answer this one question:

QUESTION: DO YOU WANT DUNCAN TO BE INFORMED? YES OR NO?


Why would Oswald need to go home and grab a jacket on a sunny Texas afternoon when he was already wearing a long sleeve flannel?

Because he did not plan on returning ever again and he may face the cold of November on the subsequent days and nights.


Why in gods name would Oswald (or anyone else for that matter) shoot a cop with a revolver, and stop to take the time to dump the shells out for the police to find?

To reload. If he wants to reload immediately, he has to empty the shells from the revolver. Better to take the incriminating shells with him then to leave them behind? Questionable.


Why did Oswald ditch his jacket? Was he scared it could incriminate him? How could his jacket be more incriminating than the actual gun and shells?

How could it indeed? But that still isn’t enough to incriminate him in your mind. Ditching his jacket instantly changes his appearance. He could assume the police would be looking for a man wearing the color of jacket he had on when he shot Officer Tippet.


Why would Oswald sneak into a movie if he had money to buy popcorn? He was worried about his jacket giving him away, but not the gun, the shells, or taking the chance of sneaking into a movie?

Needed to get off the street immediately. In his mind the police might stop him on sight, as Officer Tippet did. Can’t take the time to buy a ticket.


If Oswald really wanted to kill the president and he was really on the 6th floor with a rifle, why didn't he take this shot?    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pJ9u9XKWsaYND2NE7

Or this shot...  https://photos.app.goo.gl/dEVkMhq5FXKc1RbZ9        Or even this shot.... https://photos.app.goo.gl/FANxoHLqPxbRtkNC9

High angular velocity of the target. The angular velocity of the target does not drop below 2 degrees per second, and hold that for at least a second, until around frame z222.



Why did he wait all the way until the worst possible shot?   And how did this shot even work, considering the huge obstruction that was in his way which was clearly taken down later so people wouldn't  question this..  https://photos.app.goo.gl/eeemopZCx9oJFSdw6 

He didn’t take that shot, that occurs after the last shot at z312.


Enough of your inane questions. And enough of your name calling or you will be reported.

[Jerry Freeman]

You should not insult others on this forum. 
 Enough of your inane questions. And enough of your name calling or you will be reported.

Joe Elliott...I have reviewed this thread and find that nowhere were you singled out, insulted or called a name.
However I do notice that you have directly insulted the original poster by calling out his inquiry as "inane".
Everyone here has a right to post...even if theoretically. If you don't like the post..you don't have to read it.

[Joe Elliott]

Joe Elliott...I have reviewed this thread and find that nowhere were you singled out, insulted or called a name.
However I do notice that you have directly insulted the original poster by calling out his inquiry as "inane".
Everyone here has a right to post...even if theoretically. If you don't like the post..you don't have to read it.

He insulted all LNers by referring to us as “Oswald Swallowers”. I’ll call anyone who calls us that inane. Which is a mild response. But if you don’t think this is an insult, go ahead and report to Duncan what Izraul said.


You might also mention to him that the possibility that “Izraul Hidashi” might be a fake name, chosen to insult Israel. And is Izraul Hidashi antisemitic?

I found the following googling his name:

Anyone still think Israel isn't the problem but the Muslims are?

For well over 60 years Israel has worked to frame Muslims and get others like the US to do their dirty work. They have instilled hate against the middle east and anyone who catches on and opposes their actions, and it's all done through the control of western media outlets.

But it's more than just hate. Israel teaches their own the lies that they are superior above the rest of us and we are all just dirt. They believe they are smarter and stronger, which has been evident in their past black operations to fool and control the acts of others.

The USS Liberty and the Fake Radio Transmission incident of the 80's are perfect examples of this. And just like everything else, Israel finger prints are eventually found to be all over other acts of terrorism and terrorist groups, such as 9/11 and ISIS.

I guess were all just supposed to be too stupid and blind to see. And maybe they're right... at least about most of the people.

Those with common sense tend to still be a problem for them though. lol.

Combined with a first name of “Izraul”, yes, I think him being an anti-Semite is a real possibility. You might want to bring this up with Duncan to.


Let us know what you communicated to Duncan. If you respond with silence, we will know you think it best if Duncan does not look into this.

[Bill Chapman]

So the lights made everything faster? Okay, we can shave 5 to 10 minutes off. Does that really make a difference? Do you really think it's plausible that he could have shot the president with a rifle that the army testers said was such a piece of crap there there was no way it could have killed the president? Here's a quote:

"The experts from the US Army and the FBI who had tested the rifle discovered that it was actually not usable in its original state:

    Shims had to be applied to the telescopic sight before the rifle could be aimed
    Even after the telescopic sight had been repaired, it proved unreliable and inaccurate
    The condition of both the bolt and the trigger pull meant that the rifle could not be aimed accurately

The rifle discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository could not have caused any of the wounds to Kennedy, Connally or Tague, except by accident."

Here's a reference to notes found in the WC report:

“They [the US Army marksmen] could not sight the weapon in using the telescope, and no attempt was made to sight it in using the iron sight. We did adjust the telescopic sight by the addition of two shims, one which tended to adjust the azimuth, and one which adjusted an elevation”: Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.443.

According to the FBI’s firearms specialist, “Every time we changed the adjusting screws to move the crosshairs in the telescopic sight in one direction it also affected the movement of the impact or the point of impact in the other direction. … We fired several shots and found that the shots were not all landing in the same place, but were gradually moving away from the point of impact.”: Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.405.

Problems with the bolt and the trigger mechanism: “There were several comments made — particularly with respect to the amount of effort required to open the bolt. … There was also comment made about the trigger pull … in the first stage the trigger is relatively free, and it suddenly required a greater pull to actually fire the weapon.”: Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.449. “The pressure to open the bolt was so great that that we tended to move the rifle off the target.”: ibid., p.451."

If the Army and FBI experts couldn't shoot that thing, do you really think a crappy shot like Oswald could have done better? And then made that trip doing all those things within 30 minutes to kill a cop? I used to take the bus to Oak Cliff and Pleasant Grove. I can tell you right now there's no way Oswald could have done all that in 30 minutes.

Oswald got lucky

[Bill Chapman]

Ditching his jacket instantly changes his appearance. He could assume the police would be looking for a man wearing the color of jacket he had on when he shot Officer Tippet.

Exactly. And Oswald didn't exactly complain about not having a jacket in the lineup (I might be wrong but no one has piped up to confirm that either way. Too soon, I guess).

Most people were wearing jackets, overcoats etc that day. About 50° and windy along the route. Additionally, Buell described the little twerp's jacket as having bulky (baggy?) sleeves. After all, why reveal the bag in full profile if your intent is to disguise a 34.8" sandwich as a pair of curtain rods, eh..

[John Iacoletti]

Better to take the incriminating shells with him then to leave them behind? Questionable.

What is the argument for leaving them behind and in front of witnesses?  Other than wanting them to be found.

How could it indeed? But that still isn’t enough to incriminate him in your mind. Ditching his jacket instantly changes his appearance. He could assume the police would be looking for a man wearing the color of jacket he had on when he shot Officer Tippet.

Sure.  Wouldn't he assume the police would also be looking for a guy with a handgun?

Needed to get off the street immediately.

"Immediately" as in 30 minutes later?