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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2020, 11:37:30 PM »
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And since when is concluding that there is zero evidence for something the same as a theory?

There is evidence.

That Oswald attempted to shoot McDonald?  You haven't come up with anything yet!

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2020, 11:37:30 PM »


Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2020, 11:38:09 PM »
Sam Holland said on camera that at least one shot came from the picket fence on the grassy knoll where he also saw a puff of smoke.
He also said that the WC was wrong;



Holland also said that the WC was wrong and that they manipulated his testimony.

Since you consider a witness saying something on video is true... What Holland says must also be true, right?

Since you consider a witness saying something on video is true... What Holland says must also be true, right?

Idiotic comparison.

Holland could not identify a shooter. He had no interaction with a second assassin.

Brewer identified Oswald as the man who acted suspiciously in the foyer of his shoe-store... when police cars drove by with sirens wailing.

McDonald interacted physically with Oswald.

There's an enormous difference between Sam Holland's video testimony and that of Brewer's and McDonald's.

Why don't you discern that. You don't want to.

And what's Holland (in Dealey Plaza) got to do with Brewer and McDonald in Oak Cliff?

Is that a non sequitur?

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2020, 11:39:43 PM »
How would Brewer and McDonald know who shot Tippit?

Another silly question to which you know the answer.

Listen to what Brewer said to Barker in the video.

The DPD officers including McDonald regarded the man in the Texas Theater as a "suspect" in the killing of Officer Tippit.

Why don't you assert that Brewer and MacDonald are liars?

Another silly question to which you know the answer.

Well you clearly don't know the answer....

Listen to what Brewer said to Barker in the video.

He said he heard news on the radio that Kennedy been shot and a description of the suspect, which btw didn't match Oswald at all.

And he said he heard on the radio that a police officer had been shot in Oak Cliff.... The only problem is that in 56 years nobody has been able to provide evidence that such a broadcast ever took place. Radio stations tape all their output just in case advertisers complain about a commercial not being aired. The broadcast that Brewer talked about would also be taped, yet no such tape has ever been found.

The DPD officers including McDonald regarded the man in the Texas Theater as a "suspect" in the killing of Officer Tippit.

Police chase suspects all the time. You claimed that Brewer and McDonald knew that Oswald killed Tippit. John's question was spot on and your reply was pathetic.

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2020, 11:39:43 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2020, 11:40:05 PM »
Holland could not identify a shooter. He had no interaction with a second assassin.

This is comical.  What "assassin" did Brewer and McDonald identify?

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2020, 11:42:35 PM »
Since you consider a witness saying something on video is true... What Holland says must also be true, right?

Idiotic comparison.


No it isn't. It's a comparison of witnesses who made statements on video.

Holland could not identify a shooter. He had no interaction with a second assassin.

Brewer and McDonald also could not identify a shooter. Neither man saw Tippit being killed.

Brewer identified Oswald as the man who acted suspiciously in the foyer of his shoe-store... when police cars drove by with sirens wailing.

McDonald interacted physically with Oswald.


So what? They still had no way of knowing that Oswald killed Tippit, because they never saw the shooting

There's an enormous difference between Sam Holland's video testimony and that of Brewer's and McDonald's.

No there isn't... It's witnesses making statements on video. Same rules for everybody... But what difference would that be? Pray tell....

Why don't you discern that. You don't want to.

You just want there to be a difference, so you can dismiss what Holland said

And what's Holland (in Dealey Plaza) got to do with Brewer and McDonald in Oak Cliff?

What have Brewer and McDonald, on Jefferson, to do with a shooting at 10th/Patton?

Is that a non sequitur?

You really love using that term... Is it something you learned the meaning of recently and now you want to use it as often as you can?

It's all very simple; if you take the position that Brewer and McDonald were truthfull because they said something on video than the same must apply to Holland.
Idiotic comparison.

« Last Edit: April 23, 2020, 11:52:27 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2020, 11:44:19 PM »
I did.  How does that tell you who shot Tippit?

Regarding somebody as a suspect is proof of . . . what, exactly?

Why would I need to?

Regarding somebody as a suspect is proof of . . . what, exactly?


Initially a suspect is the potential perpetrator. Later: Other information (and evidence) suggests the suspect is likely to be the actual perpetrator.

Ever heard of the word "probative".

Why would I need to?

To establish credibility and prove that you are not just a "contrarian".

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2020, 11:51:40 PM »
Speaking of silly...

How would Brewer and McDonald know who shot Tippit?

Tell us why they would have to know that.

Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2020, 11:53:23 PM »
Another silly question to which you know the answer.

Well you clearly don't know the answer....

Listen to what Brewer said to Barker in the video.

He said he heard news on the radio that Kennedy been shot and a description of the suspect, which btw didn't match Oswald at all.

And he said he heard on the radio that a police officer had been shot in Oak Cliff.... The only problem is that in 56 years nobody has been able to provide evidence that such a broadcast ever took place. Radio stations tape all their output just in case advertisers complain about a commercial not being aired. The broadcast that Brewer talked about would also be taped, yet no such tape has ever been found.

The DPD officers including McDonald regarded the man in the Texas Theater as a "suspect" in the killing of Officer Tippit.

Police chase suspects all the time. You claimed that Brewer and McDonald knew that Oswald killed Tippit. John's question was spot on and your reply was pathetic.

Police chase suspects all the time. You claimed that Brewer and McDonald knew that Oswald killed Tippit. John's question was spot on and your reply was pathetic.

Brewer and McDonald "suspected" the man (Lee Oswald) was the killer of Officer Tippit.

Oswald's "punching McDonald and pulling a revolver from his (Oswald's) waistband and attempting to fire it" was (in their minds) "confirmation".

McDonald experienced Oswald's violent, illegal actions and Brewer witnessed them.

Incidentally: Oswald carrying that revolver was a felony, was it not?

Regarding Johnny "I". Spot-on to what? Those cliche replies are meaningless.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2020, 11:55:15 PM by Ross Lidell »

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Re: Flight of Lee Oswald - Brewer and McDonald testimonies on CBS 1964
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2020, 11:53:23 PM »