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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Why Did Oswald Kill JFK?
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2020, 04:16:36 PM »
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Mr. WILLIS. No, sir; I took that picture just seconds before the first shot was fired, to get back close up. Then I
started down the street, and the regular weekly edition of Life magazine came out and shows me in about three
different pictures going down the street. Then my next shot was taken at the very--in fact, the shot caused
me to squeeze the camera shutter,
and I got a picture of the President as he was hit with the first shot. So
instantaneous, in fact, that the crowd hadn't had time to react.





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« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2020, 04:32:04 PM »
At least one shot he has to stand.
is that the first one - at about what z150ties?
the bullet hit behind the car - just after the turn?
densest part of the plaza. Is he shooting straight down?
How wide open is the window?

...and the gun jammed.

but wait
Willis heard a shot when he snapped his picture.
Betzner heard a shot as he wound his camera
Altgens heard a shot when he snapped his picture.

some shots must be the same - A6 shows the men already hit
Willis said he heard a shot as he snapped W5
Car is just passed the window in the 150ties and LHO missed completely and nobody saw it?

and you said it was because of a box or a pipe?
...like a cartoon, you draw it any way you need to make it fit

Amos Euins and Patricia Ann Donaldson have both said in so many words that they heard the first shot as the limo was passing the pole with the black-and-white highway signs on the "island".

This corresponds with the moment that the limo passed under the traffic light's horizontal "mast arm" from a Sniper's Nest point of view.

At that point Zapruder hadn't yet resumed filming, although the limo was already 71 feet into Dealey Plaza.

Elsie Dorman said she immediately stopped filming when she heard the first shot. According to Dale K. Myers, Dorman stopped filming three times during the shooting sequence, and that the first time was 0.12 seconds before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133, some 1.4 seconds after the first shot. This was right after the limo had passed under the traffic light's arm from the Sniper's Nest and Elsie Dorman's point of view in the TSBD.

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Re: Why Did Oswald Kill JFK?
« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2020, 05:01:08 PM »
Rosemary Willis stops and turns after the 1st shot.
video by Gerda Dunckel

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« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2020, 05:04:14 PM »
Rosemary Willis stops and turns after the 1st shot.
video by Gerda Dunckel

I believe she's on record as saying that the reason she stopped running was because her father had yelled out for her to come back.

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« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2020, 05:05:45 PM »
I believe she's on record as saying that the reason she stopped running was because her father had yelled out for her to come back.

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You post you believe a lot of stuff that you never back up. So what?

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« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2020, 06:47:26 PM »
You post you believe a lot of stuff that you never back up. So what?

Craig,

Can you provide us with a quote in which she says she stopped running when she heard the first shot ... or is that just something that you'd really, really, really like to believe?

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Re: Why Did Oswald Kill JFK?
« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2020, 08:16:45 PM »
Mr. LIEBELER - Did you follow the car down Elm Street after you took the picture, which we have marked Hudson Exhibit No. 1?

Mr. WLLIS - I proceeded down the street and didn't take any other pictures instantly, because the three shots were fired approximately about 2 seconds apart, and I knew my little daughters were running along beside the Presidential car, and I was immediately concerned about them, and I was screaming for them to come back, and they didn't hear me. But I was concerned about them immediately, because I knew something tragic had happened, and the shots didn't ring out long like a rifle shot that is fired into midair in a distance. I knew it hit something, and it couldn't have been a firecracker or anything like that, so it impressed me, I remember, and after I found my daughters, I saw they were heading back toward their mother.

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