If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?

[Tim Nickerson]

Do you agree that if the girls used that door, it would reduce the distance to the stairs even further than you had calculated?

Of course.

[Martin Weidmann]

Of course.

Great. This means the girls could actually already be on the stairs on the 4th floor before the shooter even got to the stairwell on the 6th floor, right?

And if they go down the stairs at the same speed, the girls (with only 3 flights to go) could have arrived on the 1st floor before the shooter (who had 4 flights of stairs to go) could have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

[Tim Nickerson]

Great. This means the girls could actually already be on the stairs on the 4th floor before the shooter even got to the stairwell on the 6th floor, right?

And if they go down the stairs at the same speed, the girls (with only 3 flights to go) could have arrived on the 1st floor before the shooter (who had 4 flights of stairs to go) could have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

I suppose that it's possible, yes.

[Dan O'meara]

Martin,
What time do you have Shelley and Lovelady entering the side-door on the west of the building?

[Martin Weidmann]

I suppose that it's possible, yes.

Great. My next question would be about Shelley and Lovelady.

In Adam's testimony it says that she saw both men as she arrived on the 1st floor, but we know from Shelley's and Lovelady's testimony that both men were at the front of the building, near the main entrance, when the shots were fired. We also know from the same testimony that Lovelady saw Officer Baker running towards the building  and entering it with Truly, at an estimated 30 seconds after the shots were fired. Shelley and Lovelady also tell us that they first went to a little traffic island and then down the dead end road running parallel to the TSBD towards the parking lot on the west side of the TSBD where they stayed for a while. They did not re-enter the TSBD until 12.35, just prior to it being sealed off.

All this means that Shelley and Lovelady could physically not have been anywhere near the stairs in the north west corner of the TSBD at around 1 minute after the last shot, right?

We also know that Sandra Styles re-entered the TSBD through the main entrance at the front of the building at roughly 12.35 and that Victoria Adams stayed outside for a short while to talk to co-workers. She then heard a radio broadcast at 12.36 and tried to re-enter the building which by then had been sealed off. She had to talk her way in, went up the stairs to the 2nd floor, walked through the office space towards the freight elevators in the back of the building and went up to the 4th floor with two men she thought were police officers or secret service.

The only location where Shelley & Lovelady and Styles & Adams possibly crossed paths was at or near the parking lot at the end of the dead end street. Shelley and Lovelady said they were there before entering the building at the west side and Adams and Styles passed there when they were making their way to the front entrance.

So, the question is; could it be that Adams was mistaken in her testimony and that she saw Shelley and Lovelady (possibly as the first persons she knew) as their paths crossed at the parking lot?

[Martin Weidmann]

Martin,
What time do you have Shelley and Lovelady entering the side-door on the west of the building?

At 12.35... just prior to the building being sealed off

[Tim Nickerson]

Great. My next question would be about Shelley and Lovelady.

In Adam's testimony it says that she saw both men as she arrived on the 1st floor, but we know from Shelley's and Lovelady's testimony that both men were at the front of the building, near the main entrance, when the shots were fired. We also know from the same testimony that Lovelady saw Officer Baker running towards the building  and entering it with Truly, at an estimated 30 seconds after the shots were fired. Shelley and Lovelady also tell us that they first went to a little traffic island and then down the dead end road running parallel to the TSBD towards the parking lot on the west side of the TSBD where they stayed for a while. They did not re-enter the TSBD until 12.35, just prior to it being sealed off.

All this means that Shelley and Lovelady could physically not have been anywhere near the stairs in the north west corner of the TSBD at around 1 minute after the last shot, right?

We also know that Sandra Styles re-entered the TSBD through the main entrance at the front of the building at roughly 12.35 and that Victoria Adams stayed outside for a short while to talk to co-workers. She then heard a radio broadcast at 12.36 and tried to re-enter the building which by then had been sealed off. She had to talk her way in, went up the stairs to the 2nd floor, walked through the office space towards the freight elevators in the back of the building and went up to the 4th floor with two men she thought were police officers or secret service.

The only location where Shelley & Lovelady and Styles & Adams possibly crossed paths was at or near the parking lot at the end of the dead end street. Shelley and Lovelady said they were there before entering the building at the west side and Adams and Styles passed there when they were making their way to the front entrance.

So, the question is; could it be that Adams was mistaken in her testimony and that she saw Shelley and Lovelady (possibly as the first persons she knew) as their paths crossed at the parking lot?

It's possible that Adams was mistaken about seeing Shelley and Lovelady but I doubt that she was. She recalled it on two separate occasions.

[Martin Weidmann]

It's possible that Adams was mistaken about seeing Shelley and Lovelady but I doubt that she was. She recalled it on two separate occasions.

Okay, can you find a way that she possibly could not have been mistaken when we know, from their testimony, that Shelley and Lovelady were outside the building when the shots were fired and did not return to the 1st floor until 12.35, just prior to the building being sealed off.

We also know that Victoria Adams re-entered the building through the main entrance at the front, after hearing a DPD radio message at 12.36. She went up the stairs to the 2nd floor, walked through the office space to the freight elevator at the back of the building and went up to the 4th floor with two police officers.

I take it that you agree that if it is physical impossible for two people to be in eyesight of eachother at a particular time, it is impossible for one of the people to have seen the other, right?

When and where exactly do you propose Adams could have seen Shelley and Lovelady inside the building?