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Author Topic: If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?  (Read 107481 times)

Offline Dan O'meara

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Why would they run to the west side of the building when they heard the shots being fired directly above their heads in the east corner of the fifth floor?
It is very quickly established that someone is shooting at the President of the United States and that person is on the floor directly above them. Why aren't BRW and co. shouting from the windows "He's up here"? Why don't they run straight downstairs and tell everyone they meet about the shooter on the 6th? But here's the kicker - why don't they tell Baker about it? A policeman on his way up towards the 6th and they don't even warn him!
It's almost as if they're hiding in the corner until the coast is clear and they can make their way down unnoticed.
It is noticeable when giving his WC testimony, Williams is not even asked why he didn't warn Baker.

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Offline Colin Crow

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It is very quickly established that someone is shooting at the President of the United States and that person is on the floor directly above them. Why aren't BRW and co. shouting from the windows "He's up here"? Why don't they run straight downstairs and tell everyone they meet about the shooter on the 6th? But here's the kicker - why don't they tell Baker about it? A policeman on his way up towards the 6th and they don't even warn him!
It's almost as if they're hiding in the corner until the coast is clear and they can make their way down unnoticed.
It is noticeable when giving his WC testimony, Williams is not even asked why he didn't warn Baker.

Interesting to theorise where you would wait on the 5th floor with someone shooting from the SE corner of the floor above.

Also interesting to wonder why Williams did not warn a cop who was heading up there to an armed assassin for all he knew.

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Yes, it’s almost as if they didn’t really hear anything over their heads...

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Yes, it’s almost as if they didn’t really hear anything over their heads...
Not even the shots?

Offline Alan Ford

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I take it you believe someone "encouraged" Williams to slowly migrate his story to be eating lunch on the 6th floor after noon.

Maybe! Or maybe Mr Williams did spend a v. short time eating his lunch up there on his own, awaiting the expected arrival of his workmates, before being ordered off the floor by... someone.

Initially he tried to hide any visit to the sixth floor. Then he gave a series of garbled versions of the truth.

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They also "encouraged" Norman and Jarman to eventually abandon their belief that Williams went up with them.

They never believed anything of the sort! And most likely it was Mr Williams himself who did the encouraging on the score of backing up his story.

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If it was Piper, surely he simply becomes the de facto Williams. Black employee who left the floor before the shooting, "nothing to see here".

I'm not arguing that it was Mr Piper, just that he fits Mr Rowland's description much better than Mr Williams does.

If not Mr Piper, then a member of the assassination team.

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Offline Alan Ford

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And so you have the conundrum of Dougherty close to the elevator and yet not noticing a fleeing assassin descending the stairwell. It seems he is reliable when required but retarded when unsupportive of the official narrative.

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Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

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Not even the shots?

I think the reasoning is: if they heard the shots fired directly above them from the 'sniper's nest', then what could be their motivation to run to the southwest corner in stead of alerting law enforcement by yelling or going downstairs? An assumption could be they rushed to the opposite corner in order to have a better view of the grassy knoll/parking lot area as many people on ground level rushed this area in pursuit of presumed hooters.

I believe one of them said the shots 'shook the building' which is nonsensical.
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Offline Colin Crow

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Maybe! Or maybe Mr Williams did spend a v. short time eating his lunch up there on his own, awaiting the expected arrival of his workmates, before being ordered off the floor by... someone.

Initially he tried to hide any visit to the sixth floor. Then he gave a series of garbled versions of the truth.

They never believed anything of the sort! And most likely it was Mr Williams himself who did the encouraging on the score of backing up his story.

I'm not arguing that it was Mr Piper, just that he fits Mr Rowland's description much better than Mr Williams does.

If not Mr Piper, then a member of the assassination team.

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As you are probably aware I agree with most of what you have written above. Likely that Rowland simply tried to provide information but was mistaken on finer detail. He described what happened on the 6th floor in essence.

I think we can all agree that analysis of all the assembled statements leads one to believe the Warren Report description of events on the 6th floor just prior to the shooting are unsupported. The investigation largely failed to explain the significant changes in events described before the WC from statements assembled in the months previous.

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