A Simple Question in Physics

[Chris Bristow]

I was talking about your post from 5:40 AM when you showed a group of men being shot and said they were "shot in the head"

[John Mytton]

I was talking about your post from 5:40 AM when you showed a group of men being shot and said they were "shot in the head"

The first man closest to the camera in the GIF you referenced is definitely struck in the head and his head's forward movement is about equal to what we see in Zapruder.



JohnM

[Chris Bristow]

Real life isn't Hollywood, these soldiers are all shot in the head with fmj bullets and no one is violently thrown forward, they just fall down and move back towards the shooters.



JohnM

I was talking about your post from 5:40 AM when you showed a group of men being shot and said they were "shot in the head"

[Chris Bristow]

The first man in the GIF you referenced is definitely struck in the head and his forward movement is about equal to what we see in Zapruder.



JohnM

No that is his hat flying off his head. Saw a person get hit by a car once and their shoes flew off due to the force the torso received.

[Chris Bristow]

Just draw a line along the rifle and extend it to the victim. You will see he aimed at the chest. The camera is at almost 90 degrees to the trajectory of the bullet and the direction the rifle is pointing. So the perspective is accurate, the rifleman is aiming at the chest.

[John Mytton]

No that is his hat flying off his head. Saw a person get hit by a car once and their shoes flew off due to the force the torso received.

There is many more shooters as compared to men being killed and I agree that the first shooter closest to the camera appears to be firing a little low but the rest seem to be all firing at the men's heads. Btw the kinetic energy of an 11 gram bullet is a little different to a 1000+ kg car.



JohnM

[Chris Bristow]

"The rest"? You can only see two of the rifles the rest is a blur. The 2nd darker one has a higher angle compared to the first but if you trace its direction to the victim it also hits below the head. That 2nd darker image of a rifle is from the 3rd or fourth shooter in line. Trace the trajectory to the 3rd or 4th victim and both hit below the head. The 3rd victim is either taller or on a slight rise. If you trace the tops of the victims heads it illustrates the shrinking vanishing point while showing that 3rd victim is higher or taller than the others.
 But the fact remains that when shot in a standing position the knees and waist dictate much of the head movement.

[John Mytton]

"The rest"? You can only see two of the rifles the rest is a blur. The 2nd darker one has a higher angle compared to the first but if you trace its direction to the victim it also hits below the head. That 2nd darker image of a rifle is from the 3rd or fourth shooter in line. Trace the trajectory to the 3rd or 4th victim and both hit below the head. The 3rd victim is either taller or on a slight rise. If you trace the tops of the victims heads it illustrates the shrinking vanishing point while showing that 3rd victim is higher or taller than the others.
 But the fact remains that when shot in a standing position the knees and waist dictate much of the head movement.

With so many shooters how do you know which man was being shot by the 2nd shooter? Here's the angle a split second before the shots(the yellow line) to the men's heart's(the red line) which imo would be dramatically less but anyway here's a graphic where I think the rifles are pointed as compared to where the men's hearts would be.





JohnM