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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1616 on: August 26, 2021, 02:21:13 AM »
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After the second-floor lunchroom encounter with Baker and Truly

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, Oswald encountered Mrs. Reid about 12:33.

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I believe Oswald then encountered NBC reporter Robert MacNeil at the front entrance late 12:33. MacNeil said the man directed him to a phone where his call was logged in at 12:34. It may be in the 12:34 range that the Depository entrance was guarded by police. I wouldn't say the entrance was "sealed off" because Billy Lovelady, for example, was out on the steps having a smoke about 12:45-50.

Mr Lovelady told Mr James Jarman he saw Mr Oswald stopped at the front entrance by an officer and Mr Truly. Just as DPD told the press that day.

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Allman being the man encountered by Oswald is just a possibility advanced by Gary Mack, who, like Allman, was in Dallas media. Allman and the man who with him had no memory of the man being Oswald. Oswald didn't say there were two men.

So not a single person recalled seeing Mr Oswald at the front entrance at this time. Noted!  Thumb1:
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1617 on: August 26, 2021, 02:26:35 AM »
Do we have any account of Terrence Fords movements once he went in the front door with Allman? It seems Allman was on the phone inside alone, so where did Terrence Ford go?

Mr Pierce Allman, Sixth Floor Museum interview:

"I... went up the steps of the Depository building and there was a guy in the doorway and I ran up to him and asked him where a phone was, and he jerked his thumb and said 'In there'. I thanked him and went on in."

Mr Oswald was twice asked for directions at the front entrance-----------first by Officer Baker, then by (IMO) Mr Allman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1618 on: August 26, 2021, 02:29:29 AM »
Oswald encountered Mrs. Reid about 12:33

Highly unlikely, based on the available evidence.

Correct. It beggars belief that the only three Depository people who would talk about seeing Mr Oswald just after the shooting would be three people who had watched the P. Parade in each other's company-------------Mr Truly, Mr Campbell, Ms Reid.

Ms Reid lied at the behest of Mr Truly.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1619 on: August 26, 2021, 02:44:43 AM »
Captain Will Fritz let the truth slip in his WC testimony:

Well he told me that he was eating lunch with some of the employees when this happened, and that he saw all the excitement

That describes Prayer Man, a figure standing in the doorway along with some of the employees-------------and a figure in the doorway who appears to be eating lunch................................



Oh, and did I mention that Team Keep LHO Off Dem Steps has, after 8 angst-ridden years, yet to come up with a single credible alternative candidate for Prayer Man?

Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he went outside to watch P. Parade. He was telling the truth, and that truth blasts to smithereens the fantasy world in which all the Warren Gullibles have spent all these years living!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1620 on: August 26, 2021, 06:00:26 PM »
Mr Pierce Allman #1:

And then I turned around, ran back down the hill, ran up the sidewalk, went into the depository building, asked the guy where the phone was, went inside, got on the phone

Mr Pierce Allman #2:

I... went up the steps of the Depository building and there was a guy in the doorway and I ran up to him and asked him where a phone was, and he jerked his thumb and said 'In there'. I thanked him and went on in.


Statements #1 and #2 are describing the exact same eventThumb1:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1621 on: August 26, 2021, 06:59:32 PM »
    "All for now gentlemen, back later this week to reengage. Best wishes to all to
     remain well, healthy & safe, free of any potential exposure to any COVID-19
     variants still lingering about."

Who -- in the history of the Forum -- proclaimed a one-day absence like that?   ::)

What a narcissist.

 :D

The one where Mr Organ shows
a) that I've rattled him
b) his usual sovereign command of detail!

(Clue for Mr Organ: J)

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1622 on: August 27, 2021, 01:17:28 AM »
    "All for now gentlemen, back later this week to reengage. Best wishes to all to
     remain well, healthy & safe, free of any potential exposure to any COVID-19
     variants still lingering about."
     Alan Ford

Who -- in the history of the Forum -- proclaimed a one-day absence like that?   ::)

What a narcissist.



Back later this week to reengage, listen & learn.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1623 on: August 27, 2021, 01:52:25 AM »
It's getting crowded at the bottom of the LN barrel....  Thumb1:

Yep. The desperate squirmings and evasions of Messrs Mytton and Organ in recent posts are most telling....... The Warren Gullibles are in trouble, and they know it.

-"But Oswald himself never put himself out front for the motorcade" - DEBUNKED!

-"But Oswald himself said he was inside the building at the time of the assassination" - DEBUNKED!

-"But Oswald merely said he went outside in the hope of watching the P. Parade" - DEBUNKED!

-"But Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton" - DEBUNKED!

-"But the shadow down Billy Lovelady is a natural shadow" - DEBUNKED!

-"But Oswald's not telling the press about his alibi proves he had no alibi" - DEBUNKED!

-"But Oswald was seen in the second-floor lunchroom just after the shooting" - DEBUNKED!

-"But Mrs Reid told co-workers within an hour of so of the shooting about seeing Oswald in the second-floor office area" - DEBUNKED!

-"But a lunchroom hoax makes no sense because they could have just put the encounter higher up in the building" - DEBUNKED!

-"The fact that no one on the front steps at the time of the shooting said afterwards that they saw Oswald there proves he wasn't there" - DEBUNKED!

-"The coincidence between what Oswald claimed about the cop encounter at the front entrance and what DPD told press 11/22 and what Billy Lovelady told James Jarman is just that: a coincidence" - LAUGHED OUT OF COURT!

All told, things are looking pretty grim for Team Keep LHO Away From Dem StepsThumb1:
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1623 on: August 27, 2021, 01:52:25 AM »