Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Zeon Mason]

What other women employees were as short as 5’3” besides Pauline Sanders and Sarah Staunton?

If there are none, and if Staunton is the fluffy white shirt person with the hands upraised shading the face, at the center handrail location , then Staunton moved from being beside Sanders at the east side landing to move down a few steps off the landing.

If Stanton moved but did not state such in her affidavit/FBI statement , then it’s not unreasonable that Sanders might have moved also, and not stated such movement in affidavit as well.

Stauntons center handrail location is partly verified by Billy Lovelady remarking in some newspaper interview about being next to a woman who worked on the 2nd floor and in WC testimony ,Lovelady actually naming Staunton as being beside him ( albeit on the other side of the center handrail.)

Since PrayerWoman (PW)  seems to have a very good  LOS to Baker running diagonally across  and PW seems to be looking southeasterly while most everyone else appears to be looking down Elm st, and since Sanders is about the only witness who stated seeing a police officer running up to the steps, it’s a reasonable possibility that PW is Pauline Sanders.

[Alan Ford]

I don’t think there’s enough resolution in Darnell to see chromosomes or genitalia.

Well if you wish to push the idea that PrayerMan in Darnell might be Mr. Oswald in drag, knock yourself out

[John Iacoletti]

Like you can actually determine that this is woman’s clothing.

[Zeon Mason]

Its a shame that one fuzzy white ring appearing around the neck of Prayer Person which is claimed to be the result of a better version of the  film vs the many posts of a copy of the film we viewed for many years, can completely eradicate a rather lengthy analysis that had rational logical reasons why Prayer person was Oswald.

Now, instead of the logical place Oswald would likely have gone, had he exited the TSBD front door at 12:29, and from where he would easily have been unnoticed in that west corner, a new narrative has us deep into the most fantastic scenario of Oswald now moving in FRONT of people and taking out a flag and waving it!

And we are supposed to believe that NO ONE on the steps remembers seeing this flag unfurled and waving it or the person waving it, EVEN AS at the same time JFK riding by in the car is theoretically fixated on this flag and that Baker is also fixated upon it such that he is supposedly running  to where the flag and or bag was supposedly discarded by Oswald.

The 1st criticism that was immediately challenging the PM=Oswald was the apparent height of PM bring 5’3” approx relative to Buell W. Frazier.

There was a rational answer for this which was dismissed on the notion that it’ was not possible for PM to be standing one step down with both feet on the lower step, because of a computer model that claimed to represent reality more than an actual empirical experiment of a real person on the real steps with the real sunlight angle.

No one has actually gone to Dealey Plaza and have a 5’9” 135 lb man stand in the west corner of the TSBD entrance or next to the west wall and attempt to position himself one step down from the top landing, and to film this with a 63 era motion camera, at 12:29 , on the 22nd of November, to determine if it’s possible or not.

This white ring around the neck phenomenon has what proof of actually existing when  for 15 years it was never there, from when the PM figure was made visible by a process of developing the negative to lighten up the background.?

[Alan Ford]

Its a shame that one fuzzy white ring appearing around the neck of Prayer Person which is claimed to be the result of a better version of the  film vs the many posts of a copy of the film we viewed for many years, can completely eradicate a rather lengthy analysis that had rational logical reasons why Prayer person was Oswald.

This is an inaccurate characterization of how PM=LHO came to be discredited, Mr. Mason. The "many posts of a copy of the film we viewed for many years" was in fact ONE frame viewed over and over again. Prayer Man in this one frame struck many people (myself included) as LHO-like. Mr James Hackerott warned us that the clearer version of the film in the 6FM showed-------across multiple frames--------a neckline that seemed incompatible with male attire. And then the new (and, yes, superior) frame appeared online and-------------bore his claim out.

Several people have viewed the 6FM copy of Darnell. To my knowledge, not a single one has come back with the declaration 'Yep, looks like Oswald!' Now why do you think that might be?

Now, instead of the logical place Oswald would likely have gone, had he exited the TSBD front door at 12:29, and from where he would easily have been unnoticed in that west corner, a new narrative has us deep into the most fantastic scenario of Oswald now moving in FRONT of people and taking out a flag and waving it!

I have studied the doorway films VERY closely, and have offered a considered analysis of what they show:
--Mr. Oswald drinking from his Coke bottle (Hughes)
--Two flags being waved from the doorway; Pres. Kennedy looking that way, and then brushing his hand across his hair (Towner)
--Mr. Lovelady, a few feet east of Mr. Oswald, waving the second flag (Bell)
--A ludicrous fake shadow down Mr. Lovelady's right side (Wiegman)
--A lady holding up the (soon-to-be-infamous) paper sack by the mailboxes, and Officer Baker (and another woman) running straight in her direction (Darnell)
--Mr. Shelley walking away from the scene, post-assassination, with something held to his chest (Hughes)

I stand over all elements of this analysis, and the compound explanation that flows from it.

What is YOUR analysis of what the films show, Mr. Mason? What, for example, do YOU believe accounts for the objects being waved in the doorway in Towner? (Are they too "made visible by a process of developing the negative to lighten up the background"?) And what do YOU believe the woman by the mailboxes in Darnell is holding? A surfboard?

Mr. Oswald said he "went outside to watch P. Parade". He was telling the truth. Prayer Man in Darnell has become the new DoorwayMan-in-Altgens: an initially promising attempt to pinpoint Mr. Oswald's location in the doorway that has devolved into a sorry distraction.

[Alan Ford]

Not too many red-headed men in Dealey Plaza. And not too many folks walking with purpose away from the scene. I think the probability that this is Mr. Shelley is strong.

If it's him, then we can start with his same-day affidavit:



All true, except he's left out a little southwards excursion he took beyond the hot zone in order to dispose of whatever it is we see him carrying in Hughes.

I think this is Mr. Shelley just after the shooting, carrying something(s) away from the scene:



And I think he--------and NOT Ms. Pauline Sanders----------is the person standing on the landing behind Mr. Oswald in these earlier Hughes frames:



We are seeing his head just over and behind Mr. Oswald, and we are seeing his jacket and head reflected in the glass.

If so, then Ms. Sanders only moved over to the west side of the landing in the seconds after the shooting.

This would mean that the ONLY people who would have had the flag-waving of Messrs. Oswald and Lovelady in their sight-line were
--Mr. Bill Shelley
--Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier

Everyone else's eyes were fixed on the motorcade

[John Iacoletti]

Several people have viewed the 6FM copy of Darnell. To my knowledge, not a single one has come back with the declaration 'Yep, looks like Oswald!' Now why do you think that might be?

Only two that I know of, and neither said “looks just like Pauline Sanders”. Or even “looks like a woman”. You’re way overthinking this neckline thing.

[Alan Ford]

Only two that I know of, and neither said “looks just like Pauline Sanders”. Or even “looks like a woman”. You’re way overthinking this neckline thing.

Nope, just thinking about it-----and facing the implications of what the frame shows.

But like I say, if you think this neckline could conceivably belong to a man in Dallas '63, who am I to tell you to desist from such silliness?