Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[John Tonkovich]

The issue is how many people knew there was a 2nd floor lunchroom encounter hoax.

3rd or 4th floor encounter. First day statement. Mr. O'Meara.

[Dan O'meara]

3rd or 4th floor encounter. First day statement. Mr. O'Meara.

The hoax is definitely set in the second floor lunchroom.

[Bill Chapman]

The issue is how many people knew there was a 2nd floor lunchroom encounter hoax.

Baker+Truly+Oswald

You do the math

[Dan O'meara]

Baker+Truly+Oswald

You do the math

Your talking about the actual encounter not the fake encounter

[Alan J. Ford]

In respect to the 2nd floor encounter in the lunchroom w/the wrongly accused, It did not happen. It's that simple really. First, let's take into account the actual truth before a hastily contrived script after the fact rears its deceptive offerings:

Marrion Baker's same day affidavit (bold emphasis mine to illustrate a key point ---->

AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT
THE STATE OF TEXAS
COUNTY OF DALLAS
BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared M. L. Baker, Patrolman Dallas Police Department who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says:

Friday November 22, 1963 I was riding motorcycle escort for the President of the United States. At approximately 12:30 pm I was on Houston Street and the President's car had made a left turn from Houston onto Elm Street. Just as I approached Elm Street and Houston I heard three shots. I realized those shots were rifle shots and I began to try to figure out where they came from. I decided the shots had come from the building on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston. This building is used by the Board of Education for book storage. I jumped off my motor and ran inside the building. As I entered the door I saw several people standing around. I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were. I followed the man to the rear of the building and he said, "Let's take the elevator." The elevator was hung several floors up so we used the stairs instead. As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.

s/ M. L. Baker

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN BEFORE ME THIS 22 DAY OF November A.D. 1963

/s/ Mary Rattan

Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas

Baker's same day statement alone sums up the actual truth when compared to a hastily contrived script that follows a day later. Moreover, the wrongly accused did Not, repeat did not fit Mr. Baker's description (the wrongly accused weighed in 34lbs less than the individual Baker actually encounters. Again, the wrongly accused weighed only 131lbs, nowhere near 34lbs heavier. Also, it's important to note, the individual was, quote, "walking away from the stairway". What part of this observation substantiates an encounter in a room, let alone a lunchroom floors below?

Again, What part of walking away from a stairway has anything to do with being inside a lunchroom? 

The phantom 2nd floor encounter w/the wrongly accused is just that, phantom "evidence" mired knee deep in horse manure amid a hastily contrived script the day after to frame an innocent party.

The wrongly accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Alan J. Ford]

Note the 131lb weight of the wrongly accused compared to the actual 165lb individual Baker encounters walking away from the stairway, nowhere near or inside a lunchroom ---->

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=961#relPageId=389&tab=page

The wrongly accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Dan O'meara]

In respect to the 2nd floor encounter in the lunchroom w/the wrongly accused, It did not happen. It's that simple really. First, let's take into account the actual truth before a hastily contrived script after the fact rears its deceptive offerings:

Marrion Baker's same day affidavit (bold emphasis mine to illustrate a key point ---->

AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT
THE STATE OF TEXAS
COUNTY OF DALLAS
BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared M. L. Baker, Patrolman Dallas Police Department who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says:

Friday November 22, 1963 I was riding motorcycle escort for the President of the United States. At approximately 12:30 pm I was on Houston Street and the President's car had made a left turn from Houston onto Elm Street. Just as I approached Elm Street and Houston I heard three shots. I realized those shots were rifle shots and I began to try to figure out where they came from. I decided the shots had come from the building on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston. This building is used by the Board of Education for book storage. I jumped off my motor and ran inside the building. As I entered the door I saw several people standing around. I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were. I followed the man to the rear of the building and he said, "Let's take the elevator." The elevator was hung several floors up so we used the stairs instead. As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.

s/ M. L. Baker

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN BEFORE ME THIS 22 DAY OF November A.D. 1963

/s/ Mary Rattan

Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas

Baker's same day statement alone sums up the actual truth when compared to a hastily contrived script that follows a day later. Moreover, the wrongly accused did Not, repeat did not fit Mr. Baker's description (the wrongly accused weighed in 34lbs less than the individual Baker actually encounters. Again, the wrongly accused weighed only 131lbs, nowhere near 34lbs heavier. Also, it's important to note, the individual was, quote, "walking away from the stairway". What part of this observation substantiates an encounter in a room, let alone a lunchroom floors below?

Again, What part of walking away from a stairway has anything to do with being inside a lunchroom? 

The phantom 2nd floor encounter w/the wrongly accused is just that, phantom "evidence" mired knee deep in horse manure amid a hastily contrived script the day after to frame an innocent party.

The wrongly accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

You're completely missing the point Alan.
You argue how unlikely the "official" version of things is but the point I'm making is how utterly ridiculous the "Second Floor Encounter Hoax" is. It's utterly pathetic. In an earlier post I've already demonstrated how easy it would be to construct an airtight fake encounter. How can you account for how many people are involved in this so-called hoax? How can you account for how the hoaxers contradict each other? Who is directing this hoax?
As for your point about Baker, if, as people like yourself point out, Baker is in the same room as Oswald when he gives his affidavit, why is his description of the man he encountered different from the man sat right in front of him?

[Alan J. Ford]

You're completely missing the point Alan.
You argue how unlikely the "official" version of things is but the point I'm making is how utterly ridiculous the "Second Floor Encounter Hoax" is. It's utterly pathetic. In an earlier post I've already demonstrated how easy it would be to construct an airtight fake encounter. How can you account for how many people are involved in this so-called hoax? How can you account for how the hoaxers contradict each other? Who is directing this hoax?
As for your point about Baker, if, as people like yourself point out, Baker is in the same room as Oswald when he gives his affidavit, why is his description of the man he encountered different from the man sat right in front of him?

Good afternoon, Mr. O'meara

Until actual evidence presents itself that at least one more person--besides Mr. Piper (Eddie) actually confirms they saw the tandem of Baker & Roy Truly ascend the backstairs together it did not happen. Moreover, what's most disturbing about even Mr. Piper's acknowledgment of them being together is the following statements ---->

Mr. BALL. You mentioned you saw Truly?
Mr. PIPER. I don't know whether it was a policeman or FBI or who it was, but another fellow was with him.
Mr. BALL And where were you?
Mr. PIPER. Standing right there where they make coffee.

Critical thinkers--given Mr. Piper's expressed doubt about just who he sees w/Roy Truly are left to wonder why he cannot simply confirm he saw a white helmeted motorcycle officer in long black boots w/Roy Truly IF indeed the tandem were together.

I do believe that Baker and Roy Truly came together at some point that afternoon (just not the timing sequence pushed by the hastily contrived script to frame an innocent party). I believe they encountered the MUCH larger man (165lbs) than the wrongly accused (131lbs) on an upper floor beyond the 2nd floor lunchroom, let alone inside it.  However, once the hastily contrived script raises its deceptive head the next day to reinvent. revise and ignore the same day events, the stench of horse manure becomes rather obvious.

Then there's this exchange ----> 

Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Critical-thinkers are left to wonder what exactly was Roy Truly up to over in the sniper's nest BEFORE the gun and shell casings were found...

Again, I would believe the exploits of Baker & Roy Truly if more than a single lone person can account for them being near the backstairs together. Only Mr. Piper, 1-69 witnesses does so. I will never be convinced that Ms. Adams, etc were deaf and/or blind to account for the reason they didn't bear witness to seeing the tandem together.

Still wondering aloud why Roy Truly was over in the sniper's nest BEFORE the gun and shell casings were found. Hmm