Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Walt Cakebread]

How many times are you going to misrepresent what's in the Hosty draft report, Mr Nessan?
--------visit to second floor lunchroom (pre-assassination)
--------lunch on one (pre-assassination)
--------then outside to watch P. Parade

No post-assassination encounter with Officer Baker in the second floor lunchroom.

Why do you favor Inspector Kelley's version of this over Agent Bookhout's? Oh, I forgot------Agent Bookhout took a little nap while Inspector Kelley stayed awake to hear Mr Oswald change his story.

Mr Oswald claimed----truthfully----that he ate lunch alone in the domino room, during which time he noticed Messrs Jarman and Norman pass through. He also claimed----truthfully----that he took what remained of his lunch/coke outside to watch the P. Parade------------and hence was (as Captain Fritz let slip) eating his lunch in the presence of other employees when the assassination happened, and saw all the 'excitement'.
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And yet he describes its front area to a T. Because he is recalling Mr Oswald's description.

~Yawn~ More shameless cherry-picking......

"But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke."

Mr Holmes heard Mr Oswald mention having bought the coke from the coke machine--------a pre-motorcade event.

Did Mr Oswald have access to the latest newspapers? If not, how come he was able to tell the same story of a front entrance encounter that DPD were telling press on 11/22?

We know nothing of the sort, lol.

And once again------you are aware, I hope, that Mr Oswald was seen downstairs after folks broke for lunch. So your wild theory, based on a ridiculously forced reading of Mr Holmes' compressed account, is that Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz on the Sunday that he never came downstairs after folks broke for lunch. Good luck with that!

Mr Ford, your imaginary information surrounding Lee Oswald's actions between 12:15 pm and 12:35 Pm is no better than Mr Nessan's imaginary information.  Apparently neither of you can comprehend what you read....   Or at least neither of you can understand that Postal Inspector  Harry Holmes had been hanging around the DPD and hearing bits and pieces of information from the time that Lee Oswald was brought to police headquarters.  Holmes knew the story that was being created and fed to the reporters.... So when he listened in on the interrogation of Lee Oswald that Sunday morning he tried to fit Lee's account into the framework of the story he already knew....But that story was not true.   The most glaring error that Holmes made was founded in his belief that Lee Oswald was guilty,...   And since he accepted that Lee was guilty  (because Holmes had been watching Lee's mail box, as an FBI informant , and therefore he  "knew" that Lee was a communist )   he accepted the tale that Lee had been on the sixth floor at the time shots were fired from the sixth floor window. ***

Bottomline....   Holmes report is simply a twisted account of what Lee said that Sunday morning just minutes before he was lead to his lynching.       

P.S. Once a person like Holmes, accepts a lie about another person (LHO) who is being held up in the limelight as a demented devil, and Holmes believes  the tales being told are true, it's very easy for that person ( Holmes)  to create false information about the villain.  And that's exactly what Holmes did. 

A simple example.....  Everybody knows that Adolph Hitler, was pure evil....  So If I were to say that I'd found secret information that Hitler engaged in sex with small children ....   Many people would simple accept it as the truth.

***  There were no shots fired from he sixth floor window.

[Alan Ford]

Mr Ford, your imaginary information surrounding Lee Oswald's actions between 12:15 pm and 12:35 Pm is no better than Mr Nessan's imaginary information.  Apparently neither of you can comprehend what you read....   Or at least neither of you can understand that Postal Inspector  Harry Holmes had been hanging around the DPD and hearing bits and pieces of information from the time that Lee Oswald was brought to police headquarters.  Holmes knew the story that was being created and fed to the reporters.... So when he listened in on the interrogation of Lee Oswald that Sunday morning he tried to fit Lee's account into the framework of the story he already knew....But that story was not true.   The most glaring error that Holmes made was founded in his belief that Lee Oswald was guilty,...   And since he accepted that Lee was guilty  (because Holmes had been watching Lee's mail box, as an FBI informant , and therefore he  "knew" that Lee was a communist )   he accepted the tale that Lee had been on the sixth floor at the time shots were fired from the sixth floor window. ***

Bottomline....   Holmes report is simply a twisted account of what Lee said that Sunday morning just minutes before he was lead to his lynching.       

P.S. Once a person like Holmes, accepts a lie about another person (LHO) who is being held up in the limelight as a demented devil, and Holmes believes  the tales being told are true, it's very easy for that person ( Holmes)  to create false information about the villain.  And that's exactly what Holmes did. 

A simple example.....  Everybody knows that Adolph Hitler, was pure evil....  So If I were to say that I'd found secret information that Hitler engaged in sex with small children ....   Many people would simple accept it as the truth.

***  There were no shots fired from he sixth floor window.

Nope. Mr Holmes' recollection is somewhat compressed & muddled, but he gets the essentials of Mr Oswald's (truthful) claims right------------

1. Encounter between coke-in-hand Mr Oswald and officer (=Marrion L. Baker) at front entrance

2. Showing crewcut man (= Mr Pierce Allman) to nearest phone

3. No lunchroom encounter

 

[Alan Ford]

Nope. Mr Holmes' recollection is somewhat compressed & muddled, but he gets the essentials of Mr Oswald's (truthful) claims right------------

1. Encounter between coke-in-hand Mr Oswald and officer (=Marrion L. Baker) at front entrance

2. Showing crewcut man (= Mr Pierce Allman) to nearest phone

3. No lunchroom encounter

 

1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)
3. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (he's Prayer Man)
4. Officer Baker comes storming up the steps and asks him if he works there (to show him to the nearest stairs)... then Mr Truly comes along
5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room
6. He comes back out to the lobby (having been noticed by Mr Ochus Campbell and perhaps Ms Jeraldean Reid?)... he has established that the curtain rods are gone
7. Mr Pierce Allman comes looking for a telephone; Mr Oswald points him the way
8. Mr Oswald walks down the front steps and leaves the building------------disappearing (as Chief Curry will tell reporters later that day) "in the crowd"
9. The next known sighting of him is by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who sees him walking south on the Houston side of the Depository and then crossing over and disappearing from sight (Mr Frazier mistakenly assumes he must have just left by the back door of the building)

In custody, Mr Oswald does NOT mention #5 & 6 to Captain Fritz. He does not want to admit to having carried ANY substantial package to work that morning.

[Jack Nessan]

1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)
3. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (he's Prayer Man)
4. Officer Baker comes storming up the steps and asks him if he works there (to show him to the nearest stairs)... then Mr Truly comes along
5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room
6. He comes back out to the lobby (having been noticed by Mr Ochus Campbell and perhaps Ms Jeraldean Reid?)... he has established that the curtain rods are gone
7. Mr Pierce Allman comes looking for a telephone; Mr Oswald points him the way
8. Mr Oswald walks down the front steps and leaves the building------------disappearing (as Chief Curry will tell reporters later that day) "in the crowd"
9. The next known sighting of him is by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who sees him walking south on the Houston side of the Depository and then crossing over and disappearing from sight (Mr Frazier mistakenly assumes he must have just left by the back door of the building)

In custody, Mr Oswald does NOT mention #5 & 6 to Captain Fritz. He does not want to admit to having carried ANY substantial package to work that morning.

An indeterminate photo that could literally be anyone on the face of the Earth, this newspaper article, and Hosty's notes is all that is needed by you to proclaim the innocence of LHO? These vague and generalized remembrances somehow refute the similar but detailed statements of the other officials involved in the interrogation of LHO. Statements by the other interrogators, which are similar to each other and ultimately incriminating to LHO, are to be dismissed in favor of what you have posted and somehow misguidedly assigned great importance.

[Dan O'meara]

5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room

 

The fun just never stops!!

[Alan Ford]

Aha! It's taken you weeks and weeks and weeks to bring yourself to tell us that, Mr O'Meara. What a tremendous breakthrough!

So------------the shadow is the edge of the wall of the front entrance, is it?

Here's Mr Lovelady with the shadow down the right side of his body---------



The green line here (a model of the doorway @ Darnell) shows where the shadowline actually fell at 12:30pm 11/22/63:



Now, Mr O'Meara-----------can you kindly indicate, using the image above, where on those steps you believe Mr Lovelady is standing in the Wiegman frame above?

 

Bumped for Mr O'Meara! 

[Alan Ford]

A further research resource to help Mr O'Meara with his Great Demonstration of the Obvious Fact That Mr Lovelady in Wiegman---------



---------is 'Obviously' Catching a Big Chunk of Shadow from the Edge of the West Wall.............



(Credit: Mr James Hackerott)

Over to you, Mr O'Meara! 

[Dan O'meara]

A further research resource to help Mr O'Meara with his Great Demonstration of the Obvious Fact That Mr Lovelady in Wiegman---------



---------is 'Obviously' Catching a Big Chunk of Shadow from the Edge of the West Wall.............



(Credit: Mr James Hackerott)

Over to you, Mr O'Meara! 

Do you know what Alan, I've had a good look into this and am unhappy to report that it doesn't look right.
I have to agree with you - it can't be a shadow from the corner of the wall being cast on Lovelady.
Go figure