Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Gerry Down]

Well!

We have two statements, each attributed to Mr. Ochus Campbell, that Mr. Oswald was seen in a storage room on the first floor shortly after the assassination.

Exhibit #1! Dallas Morning News, 11/23/63 (by Mr. Kent Biffle):



Exhibit #2! New York Herald Tribune, 11/23/63:



Note that the DMN article gives an indirect quote, whereas the NYHT one provides a direct quote.

And there are not one but two eyebrow-raising details in that direct quote from Mr. Campbell:
---------1. "We saw him (Oswald) in a small storage room on the ground floor"
---------2. "he did not have permission to leave the building"

Well, if no. 2 here is referring to the time when Mr. Truly and Officer Baker have just run into the buidling, then Mr. Campbell's statement is most odd. All employees, at that time, had permission to leave the building. Why, most of the building's employees had left the building to view the P. Parade! There was no prohibition on employees leaving the building when on their lunch hour-----------we know, for instance, that a catering truck came by for anyone who wished to buy lunch.

This indicates that Mr. Campbell is talking about somewhat later timeframe: several minutes later, when the building was locked down.

So..................... how could Mr. Biffle have gotten the wrong end of the stick?

Here's what I think may have happened:

----------------Mr. Biffle heard, early on, that Mr. Truly & an officer had run into a 'worker' inside the building just after the assassination, and the officer had challenged this man at gunpoint, before releasing him on the word of the building manager. What Mr. Biffle did NOT hear was any NAME for this employee, nor the all-important detail: this 'worker' was caught by the rear stairway several floors up the building (as would be reflected in Officer Baker's affidavit later that day).

----------------Mr. Biffle also heard, at a considerably later point, when the word 'Oswald' was on everyone's lips, Mr. Campbell say what the NYHT reporter heard him say, i.e. that this Oswald was seen in a small storage room on the ground floor shortly after the shooting. Mr. Biffle understandably but erroneously put two and two together, and came out with five: this Oswald guy must have been the worker Mr. Truly had vouched for to the gun-toting cop. And so Mr. Biffle conflated the two sightings.

All of which would leave us with Mr. Oswald spotted in or by one of the two small storage rooms on the first floor several minutes after the shooting.

On the scenario I have been exploring in recent posts on this thread,
----------Mr. Oswald went outside to watch the P. Parade (just as he claimed)
----------then, when shots rang out, he ran down off the steps, with Mr. Bill Shelley in front
----------they both heard from Ms. Gloria Calvery that Pres. Kennedy had been shot
----------they both headed west to the edge of the railroad yards, where they stood around for a little while watching all the excitement
----------they both re-entered the building, via the west door
----------Mr. Oswald was spotted by the storage room on the first floor (perhaps by several people, including Mr. Ochus Campbell [remember: the direct quote has him say "We saw him"])
----------At some point after this, Mr. Oswald went to the front entrance to leave: by this time, an officer (Lt. Kaminski) was posted there: he stopped Mr. Oswald, and only let him go after Mr. Truly vouched for him

Mr. Oswald related all this to Captain Fritz in that first interrogation, and his claims were ruthlessly distorted in the official interrogation reports. Meanwhile, important work was undertaken------------through the addition of a magic shadow (down Mr. Lovelady's side) in Wiegman, and the creation of a 'post-Cronkite' version of the Altgens photograph----------- to erase visual evidence of Mr. Oswald's presence in the doorway at the time of the shooting




 

Wouldn't it have been easier to destroy the negative of the altgens photo rather than go to all the trouble of altering it?

[Alan Ford]

Wouldn't it have been easier to destroy the negative of the altgens photo rather than go to all the trouble of altering it?

No, as it had already been shown live on national television by Mr. Walter Cronkite. Millions and millions of Americans were already aware of its existence



 

[Gerry Down]

No, as it had already been shown live on national television by Mr. Walter Cronkite. Millions and millions of Americans were already aware of its existence



 

Oh ok, so you think it had been changed AFTER it had been shown on TV by Cronkite?

[Alan Ford]

Oh ok, so you think it had been changed AFTER it had been shown on TV by Cronkite?

Yes!

[Alan Ford]

Friends, I have been proposing that the version of Altgens shown live on TV by Mr. Walter Cronkite--------------



---------------shows Mr. Oswald's raised right arm/hand as he takes a swig from a Coca Cola bottle. (We know from the draft interrogation report by Agent Hosty, discovered in 2019, that Mr. Oswald told Captain Fritz about buying this Coke BEFORE going outside to watch the P. Parade.)

Now!

It has long been assumed by researchers on both sides of the debate that the Hughes film shows Mr. Billy Lovelady shielding his eyes from the sun at near-bottom left (=west) of the doorway, just above Mr. Carl Edward Jones---------------



I'm not so sure about that........

--------------Just a very few seconds after the time of these frames (which fall when the Limo is coming onto Elm Street), we see Mr. Lovelady in Wiegman in a different part of the doorway
--------------Would someone looking east at the limo really have needed to shield their eyes from the sun, which would not have been in their eyes?
--------------Might not this man in Hughes be in fact raising a bottle to his lips?


Remember! Mr. Oswald told Captain Fritz he wore THIS shirt to work that day:



(Credit for this photo to the ever-excellent Mr. Pat Speer!)

Are we seeing, between Hughes & Altgens, the selfsame drinking action, only several seconds apart?



 

[Zeon Mason]

Good observation there Mr.Ford. It would explain the shadowing of Lovelady and the bottle anomaly.

And if it can be shown by some geometry that hand raising the bottle is in the same spot as the shadow anomaly that’s would be helpful.

I ask Jerry Organ or Mr.Mytton (or other LNs) for any computer 3d models to see if this lines up correctly , since if an LN admits it works then the newly possible theoretical position of Oswald on the front steps can be established as a reasonable probability.

[John Iacoletti]

Remember! Mr. Oswald told Captain Fritz he wore THIS shirt to work that day:

There is no mention of what shirt Oswald wore in any of the interrogation reports.

[Alan Ford]

There is no mention of what shirt Oswald wore in any of the interrogation reports.

Agent Bookhout interrogation report:



Inspector Thomas J. Kelley interrogation report: