Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Dan O'meara]

So you claim, based on yet another dubious identification.  By the way, who exactly is "and co."?

Dubious? How so?
At the time of the assassination Gloria Calvery is stood feet away from the President as the first shot hits him. With her are Karan Hicks, Karen Westbrook and Carol Reed, work colleagues from room 203 in the TSBD. These ladies are the "and co'"

[Dan O'meara]

Mr O'meara: Buell Wesley Frazier was interrogated and bullied by Fritz and friends for several hours on Friday night. His statements are worthless; he was just trying to save his own a#$. ( Not that I blame him; Fritz and Henry railroaded many innocent folks to the penitentiary...and beyond.)

What about the janitor on the ground floor? He places Oswald by the  "glass doors" in front, less than one minute after the assassination. I believe it's Eddie Piper?

Hi John,

Would really like to know more about this janitor who saw Oswald by the glass doors less than a minute after the assassination. Where can I find out about this as I feel it might be important.

[John Iacoletti]

Dubious? How so?

It's literally based on Tommy Graves squinting and imagining that he's seeing a stripe on her "skirt".  Never mind the fact that he doesn't actually know what Calvery was wearing that day.

At the time of the assassination Gloria Calvery is stood feet away from the President as the first shot hits him. With her are Karan Hicks, Karen Westbrook and Carol Reed, work colleagues from room 203 in the TSBD. These ladies are the "and co'"

Yes, and how did you identify Hicks, Westbrook, and Reed back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds?

[Dan O'meara]

It's literally based on Tommy Graves squinting and imagining that he's seeing a stripe on her "skirt".  Never mind the fact that he doesn't actually know what Calvery was wearing that day.

Not really. Tommy and Sandy Larsen have put together a compelling argument for the identification of Calvery based on testimonial/photographic/video evidence. It's not, as you constantly suggest, a question of trying to identify anyone directly from the Darnell clip.

Yes, and how did you identify Hicks, Westbrook, and Reed back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds?

Karen Westbrook Scranton talks about them returning to the TSBD in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.

[John Iacoletti]

Not really. Tommy and Sandy Larsen have put together a compelling argument for the identification of Calvery based on testimonial/photographic/video evidence. It's not, as you constantly suggest, a question of trying to identify anyone directly from the Darnell clip.

Yes really.  The "compelling argument" is that they think they see a stripe.

Karen Westbrook Scranton talks about them returning to the TSBD in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.

When did she say who she returned with or how quickly?  But it's interesting that you bring up Westbrook, since she identified herself and Calvery in the Z film in a different spot than where Tommy Graves wants them to be.

[Dan O'meara]

When did she say who she returned with or how quickly?

She refers to herself and her work colleagues collectively when she says "We returned to the building", at some point after that she refers to running into the TSBD

But it's interesting that you bring up Westbrook, since she identified herself and Calvery in the Z film in a different spot than where Tommy Graves wants them to be.

The only interesting thing is that she doesn't know Gloria Calverys' name. She identifies two Carols when one remained in the office. She identifies Carol Reed as the non-caucasian Stella Jacobs.
What's really interesting is that you brought this non-identification up. Is this your preference for the Calvery ID?

[John Iacoletti]

She refers to herself and her work colleagues collectively when she says "We returned to the building",

You don't know who "we" refers to.

at some point after that she refers to running into the TSBD

Right.  No indication of how soon after the shots.

The only interesting thing is that she doesn't know Gloria Calverys' name.

She refers to her as "Calver" or possibly "Calvert".  But she worked with her every day and knew her well in 1963.

She identifies two Carols when one remained in the office. She identifies Carol Reed as the non-caucasian Stella Jacobs.

Correction:  she refers to a person who you are speculating to be Stella Jacobs as "I believe that's Carol Ann Reed".  There's no doubt in her mind that the person standing next to her is Gloria.  Could she possibly be wrong?  Sure.  But she's more authoritative than speculation from Squinty McSquinterton.

What's really interesting is that you brought this non-identification up. Is this your preference for the Calvery ID?

I brought it up because you trotted out Westbrook to support your claim that Calvery, Hicks, Westbrook, Reed were "back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds after the shooting has finished", even though Westbrook said nothing of the kind.  Then you turned around and accused her of misindentifying people.  So is she an authoritative source in your mind or not?  Or just when it suits you?

[Dan O'meara]

You don't know who "we" refers to.

The "we" can only refer to her work colleagues

Right.  No indication of how soon after the shots.

You've misunderstood what I was saying. At some point later in the interview she refers to running

I brought it up because you trotted out Westbrook to support your claim that Calvery, Hicks, Westbrook, Reed were "back at the TSBD steps in less than 30 seconds after the shooting has finished", even though Westbrook said nothing of the kind.

She states that immediately after the shots there was pandemonium which is when they returned to the building.